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Old 08-09-2004, 09:54 PM   #1
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Can't hear ripped songs, but can hear CDs play


I have a really peculiar problem:

Over the past few days I've been trying to rip some songs from a few of my cds. The ripping process seemed to go smoothly and everything, but once it was done, and I tried playing the mp3 file or the wav file, it produces no sound whatsoever, but the file size is the appropriate size. Playing these CDs work fine, I can hear the sound and everything.

A week ago, I could rip CDs just fine with absolutely no problem, I was thinking it was something I updated in between then and now. But the only thing I've recently tried to install or update was Gaim, Gaim-VV (libj2k, libosip and linphone-im), gtk+ (and glib, pango, atk, libiconv) and gtk-qt-engine.

I've tried reinstalling my ripping programs, but no success. I've also tried changing the volume settings (making sure things aren't muted where they shouldn't be and the volumes are at a hearable point), but no success here either.

I can play other mp3, wav and any other audio format fine, except the ones I've ripped in the past few days.

I have absolutely no idea what happened at this point, and the only solution I can think of is formatting and reinstalling SuSE 9.1


SuSE 9.1
KDE 3.2.92 (Kollege)
Grip & Kaudiocreator (which uses cdparanoia I believe)
SB Live! Sound Card which is connected to my CD ROM


I hope someone here can help me, I really don't want to reformat.

Any reply is appreciated, thank you.

Last edited by quaff; 08-09-2004 at 09:57 PM.
 
Old 08-10-2004, 01:55 AM   #2
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What tool are you using to rip them, which tool(s)
is that tool making use off?

Reinstall is hardly ever necessary, this is Linux :)


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Old 08-10-2004, 04:39 AM   #3
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Grip & Kaudiocreator (which uses cdparanoia I believe)
I used both grip and kaudiocreator which uses cdparanoia
 
Old 08-22-2004, 10:47 AM   #4
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same here

i am currently having the same problem. have you found a solution yet?
 
Old 08-22-2004, 12:24 PM   #5
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Just a shot in the dark....
are you using lame to encode the mp3s? I just had a thought that perhaps you've encoded Ogg instead, but with an mp3 extension. This really shouldn't be a problem, but I've used some players which depend on the extension to decide which decoder to use for playback.

edit: I see now that you were ripping fine not long ago, so you can probably ignore my post.

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Old 08-22-2004, 08:13 PM   #6
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yeah no solution yet, i tried reformatting, and for some reason now, i don't really remember.. but yeah.. i THINK it worked with a fresh format... i'm not 100% sure but only in .wav format.. then i started installing a whole buncha stuff and now its back to where it was.. so i'm thinking of formatting again and closely choosing what i reinstall.

i'm also having troubles with my burner too :/ it doesn't burn anything it just gives up after a few seconds.
 
Old 08-28-2004, 01:09 PM   #7
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Same problem here. Here's more info.

I've tried using both kaudiocreator and grip. I've tried ripping to both OGG and MP3. Once the rip process is finished, I end up with files that are in the neighborhood of 20k for a three minute song. The ripped file will play in XMSS and will play for as long as the song really is but no sound comes out. Also the meters don't respond.

This all started when I moved from SuSE 9.0 to SuSE 9.1. Not an upgrade. A reinstall.

 
Old 08-28-2004, 05:55 PM   #8
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exact same here

Sorry, I have still found nothing to fix this. Any program I use to rip songs still produces the same results... a rather small file that plays for the right amount of time, but with no sound. I tried reinstalling lame and oggenc, but it doesn't seem to change anything. I'm stumped on this one. Any ideas anyone?
 
Old 08-29-2004, 05:26 PM   #9
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Same problem using abcde ...

... in case adding that data point helps someone figure out the cause of the problem.
 
Old 08-29-2004, 05:34 PM   #10
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Also a Problem with WAVs ...

... meant to mention in my preceding post that saved WAVs also seem to be "empty". Opening any of WAVs, MP3s, or OGGs in Audacity shows all of them as a straight line across the middle, no modulation at all.
 
Old 08-29-2004, 11:25 PM   #11
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Problem Somewhere in CDParanoia, Use cdda2wav Instead ...

CDParanoia is used by KAudioCreator and abcde and, it seems, is pretty old anyway. (SUSE include the latest I could find, but that dates back to 2001.) Entering audiocd:/ in Konqueror also displays OGGs but trying to copy them finishes up with the same bad files, so it appears to be using CDParanoia as well.

Solution I found was to use cdda2wav to rip the CD instead of CDParanoia. And the GUI I found that can use that is the GTK+-based GRiP, which is included on the SUSE 9.1 CDs.

Hope this helps someone ... BJ

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Old 08-30-2004, 03:45 PM   #12
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I had the same problem once upon a time.

Do:

YAST -> Hardware -> Sound -> Volume

I raised all levels to 100 and now I get actual data in my .wavs, .mp3s, and .oggs

Suggestion:

Verify your DMA settings as well. I had a problem where they ripped slow too. I had to enable DMA/33 for my CD Drive in Yast.

You will need to run as root:

hdparm -i then hdparm -I

The man pages will tell you which option is which. One is what your current config is and the other is what your hardware is capable of.


Last edited by ithawtewrong; 08-30-2004 at 03:51 PM.
 
Old 08-30-2004, 08:10 PM   #13
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yes!

well, i don't know about anyone else, but this has fixed my problem. so easy. thanks a lot, ithawtewrong!
 
Old 09-02-2004, 09:26 PM   #14
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I'm working here.

The volume setting didn't change anything but my CD drive was set to "DMA Off". What I know aboiut DMA setting could be contained in a thimble but I figured "Off" had to be wrong. Changed it to "DMA On" and zip-a-dee-doo-dah, I'm ripping.

Thanks a bunch, ithawtewrong.
 
Old 09-06-2004, 10:29 AM   #15
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I had about the same problem. I can't rip -- the mp3/ogg files produced don't play. I couldn't even play with XMMS (using digital CD readout, not analog). I set the DMA on for the CD drive in YaST2 and everything went OK. I wonder which update patch turned it off coz it was working well until recently. Anyway, thanks for the tip!
 
  


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