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Old 07-28-2006, 01:58 PM   #16
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Are you trying to install on a desktop system, or a laptop? I find it strange that the CD-ROM wasn't detected by the newer kernel. You have two obvious straightforward plans:

1. Try using a different CD-ROM drive (a plain old PATA IDE drive should work fine for any version of Linux regardless of kernel)

or

2. Try a different network card, and then apt-get install a newer kernel after the install to swap back to the original network card.
 
Old 07-28-2006, 04:20 PM   #17
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Thanks for answering, i appericiate the help. Im on a laptop and i do not have an external CD-ROM drive. I dont have an external network interface card either.

It is very strange that it didnt detect the CD-ROM, i was kind of shocked when i got that message and when it didnt find the network card either i was really wondering what was going on.

Well, i have installed debian 3.1 sarge and i upgraded KDE fra version 3.3 to 3.5. I have one problem, my sound is not working and i have had a lot of trouble getting the sound to work in linux before and usually i can fix it with upgrading the kernel, so does someone have a sources.list entry to download the most recent kernel image? Its a little different this time thought, it cant find any information about the sound card at all.

The system also seems to lag at lot sometimes and i dont know why. Its like youre playing a game and its lagging, but youre on your desktop instead. Weird, never happened before.

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Are you trying to install on a desktop system, or a laptop? I find it strange that the CD-ROM wasn't detected by the newer kernel. You have two obvious straightforward plans:

1. Try using a different CD-ROM drive (a plain old PATA IDE drive should work fine for any version of Linux regardless of kernel)

or

2. Try a different network card, and then apt-get install a newer kernel after the install to swap back to the original network card.

Last edited by hondo; 07-28-2006 at 04:30 PM.
 
Old 07-28-2006, 04:28 PM   #18
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Hmm...well, one thing which I've done before on a system with no CD drive was to remove the hard drive and install it in a different computer (as primary IDE master). Then, I installed the Debian base system on it. After installing the base system, I put the drive back in the first system.

After doing this, Debian should limp to life, although it may have a lot of hardware confused. Then you can try running "dpkg-reconfigure base-config" to reconfigure the base.

Do you know what sort of network interface you've got? Maybe you'll need to use "ndiswrapper" for it--something I've never done myself.
 
Old 07-28-2006, 04:35 PM   #19
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I don't think the installation program will recognize a wireless network interface.
 
Old 07-28-2006, 04:54 PM   #20
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Im not taking out an internal harddrive in a laptop.

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Hmm...well, one thing which I've done before on a system with no CD drive was to remove the hard drive and install it in a different computer (as primary IDE master). Then, I installed the Debian base system on it. After installing the base system, I put the drive back in the first system.

After doing this, Debian should limp to life, although it may have a lot of hardware confused. Then you can try running "dpkg-reconfigure base-config" to reconfigure the base.

Do you know what sort of network interface you've got? Maybe you'll need to use "ndiswrapper" for it--something I've never done myself.
 
Old 07-28-2006, 04:54 PM   #21
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No, it will not.

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I don't think the installation program will recognize a wireless network interface.
 
Old 07-29-2006, 09:20 AM   #22
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Im again having problems with apt and im still hoping that someone can continue helping me out, because i appericiate the help.

Im trying to do an: apt-get dist-upgrade and i have also tried apt-get upgrade, but i get these error messages:

Code:
Reading Package Lists... Done
Building Dependency Tree... Done
You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  kaudiocreator: Depends: kdemultimedia-kio-plugins (= 4:3.5.0-2bpo1) but 4:3.5.3-2 is installed
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins: Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.3-1) but it is not installable
                             Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.6-6) but 2.3.2.ds1-22sarge3 is installed
                             Depends: libflac7 but it is not installed
                             Depends: libgcc1 (>= 1:4.1.0) but 1:3.4.3-13 is installed
                             Depends: libkcddb1 (>= 4:3.5.3-1) but 4:3.5.0-2bpo1 is installed
                             Depends: libogg0 (>= 1.1.3) but 1.1.2-1 is installed
                             Depends: libstdc++6 (>= 4.1.0) but it is not installed
                             Depends: libtag1c2a (>= 1.4) but it is not installable
                             Depends: libvorbis0a (>= 1.1.2) but 1.1.0-1 is installed
                             Depends: libvorbisenc2 (>= 1.1.2) but 1.1.0-1 is installed
                             Depends: libvorbisfile3 (>= 1.1.2) but 1.1.0-1 is installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
Why isnt apt resolving these dependencies and how can i fix this ?
 
Old 07-29-2006, 09:31 AM   #23
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did you try -f like it suggests?
 
Old 07-29-2006, 09:37 AM   #24
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If i try "-f" like it suggest, then there will probably be broke packages, wont it?

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did you try -f like it suggests?
 
Old 07-29-2006, 09:44 AM   #25
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Originally posted by hondo
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You cant really compare pure debian to ubuntu can you?
I've never used Ubuntu myself but I'm given to understand the hardware detection is excellent and I thought you were using Ubuntu originally hence my comment. Sorry if I misunderstood!

In answer to the above quote, if you are installing Debian out of some misguided sense of elitsm you are making your life hard for nothing. It's all Linux my son!
 
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Originally posted by hondo
In answer to the above quote, if you are installing Debian out of some misguided sense of elitsm you are making your life hard for nothing. It's all Linux my son!
Im sorry, but what the hell does that mean? Ive been running debian a long time and i really think its a really good system. I mainly think ubuntu is some kind of a rip-off which seems very unstable to me, but yes works great with hardware. Ive have mainly been asking quests. about the thread topic in this thread, so i dont understand what your are getting at.
 
Old 07-29-2006, 10:48 AM   #27
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apt-get -f install (with no program name) will probably fix your problem. I understand that KDE in Etch is a little shaky, but it will straighten itself out.
 
Old 07-29-2006, 11:23 AM   #28
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Im not using etch or sid, im using sarge.

When i install anything (even if its vlc) through apt now it never resolves anything anymore. Im using debian mirrors only. When i for example tried to install vlc i got a buch of dependencies which apt couldnt resolve. Any suggestions about what has happened to apt?

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apt-get -f install (with no program name) will probably fix your problem. I understand that KDE in Etch is a little shaky, but it will straighten itself out.

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Old 07-29-2006, 12:23 PM   #29
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There really shouldn't be any problem with dependencies if you're using only Sarge's standard repositories. With Sarge, a dist-upgrade shouldn't even try to upgrade anything--the whole point of Debian Stable is that packages are never updated except for security updates.

You're in a better position to know what happened to your setup than we are.
 
Old 07-29-2006, 01:21 PM   #30
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When i issued the command: apt-get dist-upgrade ..it asked me if i wanted to upgraded over 300 packages and install about 15 new ones. With the command: apt-get upgrade ..it asked me if i wanted to upgrade about 200, but it didnt ask if it should install any new ones.

I found out now that debian sarge isnt very compatible with my graphics card, it other words it lags serveral times when im only using the desktop. I have a fast computer with 2GB ram, so it shouldnt be that. I tried to install debian/etch with a full CD and it couldnt start x at startup. This should be easy to fix, but not even the keyboard was working, so i couldnt really do anything. I saw that one of the lastest kernels have support for intel grahics cards, but there doesnt seem to be any support for my intel grapichs card, probably because its too new.

I upgraded KDE, the X server and got the sound working, but i dont wanna use it when it lags when im using the desktop, just couldnt take that anymore, so im waiting for support for my graphics card.

That being said, i would really like to know _why_ i get those dependencies when i try to install something with apt-get, i just cant figure it out, because im using debian mirrors. I was installing kdevelop and other software without any problems earlier and suddenly now its every time saying it has dependency problems, weird.


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There really shouldn't be any problem with dependencies if you're using only Sarge's standard repositories. With Sarge, a dist-upgrade shouldn't even try to upgrade anything--the whole point of Debian Stable is that packages are never updated except for security updates.

You're in a better position to know what happened to your setup than we are.
 
  


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