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Old 08-03-2002, 04:26 AM   #1
chriscyl
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Unhappy Any Linux browser acts like IE?


Hello,

My company have a lot of web applications developed in Domino using javascript and lotusscript. Previously the web applications are to cater for IE browsers only.

Now, my company want to know whether the applictaions can work if they are port over to Linux platform. We install redhat 7.2 and install domino on it. then we transfered the applications over.

When we browses via nescape6, mozilla and Opera6, we were anguished to discover that 80% of the javascript is not supported or could not run.

LORD...we were to tranfer to Linux platform, we will have this
very big problem.

Can anyone reconmend something ? Any linux browser acts like IE ?

Thanks
Chris
 
Old 08-03-2002, 04:37 AM   #2
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There might be problem with some scripts testing if it's started using IE. In such case, Opera set to "emulate" IE should work.
I guess you have many such scripts. Mozilla's JavaScript interpreter isn't perfect, but it does support more than 20% of scripts I use (more than 90%, I think).
If you're really using 'tests for IE' it may be quite easy to make the scripts running under other browsers. In most cases it should work just after removing this part allowing only IE to use it.
 
Old 08-03-2002, 04:48 AM   #3
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Smile Dear Mara - Thanks but need further info

Hi Mara,

Thanks for the quick reply. Forgive my ignorance but I am not sure whether I understand correctly.

Do u mean that there is an option for opera to act like ie?

Can u elaborate a bit further on this comment -
'If you're really using 'tests for IE' it may be quite easy to make the scripts running under other browsers. In most cases it should work just after removing this part allowing only IE to use it.'

Does it means that I still have to get someone to restructure the codings again?

Thanks again
Chris
 
Old 08-03-2002, 09:52 AM   #4
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If I remember correctly opera does have an option to make it act like IE. It should be somewhere in the options.
 
Old 08-03-2002, 10:12 AM   #5
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It might act like IE and disguise itself but that doesn't always mean anything spcecifically coded for IE browsing is going to work. I would suggest you might want to get with the web developers and let them know they aren't doing a very good job with cross-platform functionality, adding they need to get to work.
Something that makes a good web developer, cross-platform awareness. Something I always take into consideration when making a web page.
 
Old 08-03-2002, 07:18 PM   #6
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the guy from toastytech.com got IE4 to work on wine, look there.
 
Old 08-03-2002, 09:58 PM   #7
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Yeah, you are going to have to use IE under wine, because there will be something that no other browser can view except IE, thanks to their propiertor code. i.e., powerpoint presentations in between some others. So, your best bet is to run IE under winde.
Good luck.
 
Old 08-03-2002, 10:57 PM   #8
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http://www.toastytech.com/guis/wineabout.png is a screenshot of IE4 with wine on RH6.1 that I found.
I suggest you try IE4, not IE5/IE6
 
Old 08-03-2002, 10:59 PM   #9
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(btw http://www.toastytech.com/guis/wineIe3set.png is funny to look at)
 
Old 08-03-2002, 11:06 PM   #10
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Heres the reason for only IE4:I heared that IE5/IE6 installer crashes under wine
 
Old 08-03-2002, 11:20 PM   #11
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what about mozilla?
 
Old 08-04-2002, 03:34 AM   #12
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what about it?, of course mozilla can't view 100% all sites that IE can...no other browser can. It's not the browsers fault however...it's Microsoft's
 
Old 08-04-2002, 04:47 AM   #13
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what about it?, of course mozilla can't view 100% all sites that IE can...no other browser can. It's not the browsers fault however...it's Microsoft's
I blame the author of the website for ignoring standards, Microsoft just encourages them with shoddy software such as Frontpage.
 
Old 08-04-2002, 04:51 AM   #14
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Down with the Bastards!

Now where's my pitchfork...
 
Old 08-04-2002, 07:03 AM   #15
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Re: Dear Mara - Thanks but need further info

Quote:
Originally posted by chriscyl

Do u mean that there is an option for opera to act like ie?
Yes, it's somewhere in the options. If I remember correctly I had it in one of the toolbars, just after installation.
Quote:

Can u elaborate a bit further on this comment -
'If you're really using 'tests for IE' it may be quite easy to make the scripts running under other browsers. In most cases it should work just after removing this part allowing only IE to use it.'

Does it means that I still have to get someone to restructure the codings again?
I'm searching for a site with such a code now and the only one I can think about needs you to log in. So I can't show you an example.
Maybe visit micro$oft.com and view source of the page. You'll se a small script checking for browser and OS and behaving differently when it fits the condition and when it doesn't. Similar script is sometimes used to block access for people not using Windows/MSIE.
As I said before, I can't think of an example denying access for Linux browsers, but it'll look very similar.
You can view source of pages Linux browsers have problems with and look if you can find such a script there. If you can, it may mean that changing the page to be viewable for all browsers is quite easy and won't cost much. Usually you need only to delete the script and make small, one-line modification.
But remember that there might be other reasons.
I don't know how your pages look like, so I don't know if they can be easily changed. You need someone with only basic knowledge of JavaScript to look into one of this pages and tell you what can be done about this.

Mara

PS Change the '$' into 's' in MS address.
PS2 Jeremy, could you change it? (I know, it was discussed, but just to remind you )

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