Announcing nFlux Linux; a Fluxbox oriented trinity of distros!
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hey ax25nut!
So, which one are you using?
Slackware version?
I thought the .zip format would be better for windows users
but I have always used xarchiver to decompress .tar.bz2 no problem
in pcmanfm just right-click any archive and choose "extract here" or open with xarchiver,etc
Be wary of puppy, I would not say it's a "mainstream" distro such as ARCH, Debian, Slackware and Ubuntu
Puppy simply isn't for a complete Desktop
But is rather like Slax, great for browsing and usb stuff, etc
I tried the slackware variant, of course! I was feeling particularly cruddy after my fiasco with the zip files, and was eyeballing my copy of Slackware 3.4 (really retro!) for an install again. I'm not certain at this point that there was actually a problem with the gui zip tool in puppy, as it could be just my lack of familiarity with gui zip tools in general. It sure looks weird to me after using pkzip/unzip in dos for the past 20 years or so!
As for puppy, I find it to be complete for general use as a desktop system, and especially great for linux newbies. While not as popular as the "Top Ten" distros, I've found that those, with the possible exception of ubuntu, are more geared to those that actually have familiarity with linux. Not great for those just coming off win<choke>doze. I have most of my stuff here for sharing with others in hopes of weaning them off windoze, not scaring them back to it. Puppy serves this purpose nicely, and DSL & SLAX run close right behind it, although I've found puppy better for hardware recognition here. This is precisely the thing most users want in a system.
That said, for folks like you and me who'd rather learn a new os, the distros you have are about the best choices possible. Slackware is tops, imho, followed by Debian. I have no opinion on Arch, either because it wouldn't work on my system when I last tried it, or I never got around to it. Ubuntu is gawdy to me, but a windoze user might find it fabulous (eye-candy effect). It works on all my current systems here, which includes an IBM P4/2.7ghz/2gb ram desktop, Acer Aspire One ZG5 Netbook, & Asus Eee 701SD w/2gb ram, where it runs side-by-side with Lucid Puppy. Both fit in the 8gb SSD that came with it. Looks rather freaky to see that WinXP sticker on the case.
hey GrapefruiTgirl
no offense taken, only been in computers for 3 yrs, 1 with dindows before buntu ate XP, then last 2 yrs in Linux...
so I can barely type "Hello World", much less anything else,
lol
You R one outgoing dev if that's the case. Not sure if I can be pursuaded to fluxbox from xfce but I may try out your sid spin. Does it have the sid text installer in case I install to HDD?
hello Shaine
ahh...the Sid and Ubuntu versions have the remastersys installer...
there's some issues with it as you must first login to root desktop
then use the GUI user setup to create user; logout of root and login as new user then proceed with install
for some reason if you just setup user, then install it doesn't copy the new user's
/home/username folder...?!
this in the Sid/Buntu versions only
I go a readme in the zip about it too.
so, the installer works great, etc you just gotta do a extra step is all
Fluxbox rocks!
Next couple of days I'm gonna release 2 new ClutchOS Slackware versions
a Rescue and Browser edition; the rescue at 270mb and Browser at under 150mb!
Slackware for both
Today I am releasing the first of 2 versions I have been working on
for awhile:
ClutchOS_Mini
This is based on Slackware current and is a minimal Slackware hdd install
made into livecd
Installed to hdd will be sub 750MB and the CD is only 165MB!
Slax-like it is small and fast
with Fluxbox and these apps
firefox 3.6.8
pcmanfm-mod
mc
nano
rox
lxterminal
rxvt
urxvt
scite
beep media player
alsamixer
leafpad
xarchiver
gftp
lxtask
and the USB Persistence Wizard too
it has all the xf86 drivers, etc
So; comparable to Slax/NimbleX and all Slackware/SlackBuilds pkgs!
See the download page at my site 163mb iso + more
and look for the rescue edition soon
ClutchSCR
it started out a couple weeks back I saw everyone seemed to be running Sid
and so I have various Debian installs so I booted into a old Lenny install
and upgraded to squeeze and then to sid with no problems or messed up pkgs,etc
so, I also found the Liquorix kernel same time and am now running only
sid in all installs with 0 problems
I thought that sid would be unusable sans the Sidux scripts, etc
but not true...
So, in conclusion I see no issues running Sid, Slackware Current, Ubuntu 10.10
or even ARCH testing as they all work?!
This edition of ClutchOS, called SCR (SlackwareCurrentRescue)
is useful for many, many things but really shines when used
as a general frugal usb or even better for system rescue or file recovery, etc
So if I get this right, you have 3 different distros, that all use a mish-mash of different distros' components. OK, it's a bit confusing to me as to why one would want to do that times three, but I'll bear with you.
Do you have an ISO where all three could be installed onto a LiveUSB, with a common menu to choose among the three, so all could be tried out on a machine? To make it easier to test, and choose, the one of our liking.
Sounds like a brilliant suggestion (even if I write so myself), when I re-read that... but is it feasible?
its 4 distros
arch
debian
slackware
ubuntu
versions now are
arch testing
debian sid
slackware testing/current
ubuntu 10.10 meerkat
you mean a DVD containing all 4?
no, because of bandwidth,etc
though I could make up something that will "convert" all four into one DVD...
I was gonna do this but haven't yet
If you really are serious I'll make some script or just do a "howto" for it no issues
I've already done it multiple times on my own usb's
thats how I test them too
Debian Sid
kernel: Liquorix kernel 2.6.35-4.dmz.1-liquorix-i686
iceweasel 3.5.12
added USB persistence wizard gui to create live-rw
persistence file from gui
fastest booting at approx. 25sec off usb
Slackware -current
kernel: vanilla 2.6.35.4 with bfs,bfq, and aufs/squashfs-lzma patches
firefox 3.6.9
Ubuntu Maverick Meerkat
kernel: 2.6.35-20-generic
firefox 3.6.9
biggest changes are to this one
unlike the past Ubuntu builds; this one is just like a regualr Ubuntu
CD
as in username is "ubuntu", no password
root has no password
use "sudo su" to become root just like any Ubuntu CD
also added the USB persistence wizard to this to build casper-rw
BUT; it only works from CD as Ubuntu mounts usb as /cdrom
so it will not work if running from usb
you must boot off cd/iso plug in usb, mount it
then run the persistence wizard
better to use the usb-creator anyway
all the desktops have been improved and refined
heres some notes too
the Debian uses a persistent file/partition named "live-rw"
with debian the persistence file can be on any partition EXCEPT the one it's booting from, unless you use the "toram" option
only then can it be on same partition
example usb layout for debian live
sdb1 fat32 live-media
sdb2 ext3/fat32 contains either a live-rw file
or is a ext3 partition labeled "live-rw"
In contrast the Ubuntu uses a persistent file/partition named
casper-rw
with Ubuntu the casper-rw file can be on the same partition its booting from, BUT the partition must be fat32
or if using a partition labeled "casper-rw" it must be ext3
example usb layouts for ubuntu
downloads include the iso, md5sum, and some readme's
the .zips may be bigger than 700mb but the iso's are under 700mb, because they all include some extra stuff
I tried Arch09 HDD install (using nflux-installer); it boots and I like it! great distro! thank you!
having some ubuntu 10.04 experience I learned that arch linux might be a better linux base but was disappointed that (official) arch linux had no package with desktop etc. (Just before I found this quatro-distro, I managed to install arch core from iso CD but gave up when I saw the lengthy guide how to add a windows manager.)
please excuse my arch beginners questions:
Question 1: how to change the system wide font?
it seems to me the simplest way would be to get elegant-gome AUR package* which requires the 'droid sans' font which is the font I prefer and which is default after elegant-gnome was installed.
Q 2. seems the keyboard setting was not permanent. when I rebooted it again used US kb.
what's the preferred way to make kb setting?
Q 3. used pppoe-setup and pppoe-start/-status/-stop to connect to the web. it's config is permanent but when I rebooted I was not able to connect with existing setup since (I have two NIs) it seemlingy confused which one is eth0/eth1 (on-main-board/pci-card). once it connected and ping worked but when I tested with wget it couldn't resolve the hostnames. (when I tried zenwalk live 6.4 before I found it strange that the on-board was named eth1 and not eth0.)
should I use a VPN connection manager which maybe (hopefully) auto-detects which NIC the dsl-modem is connected to?
> also, you understand it's based off of ARCH testing? not stable
sure. main main 'production' system will remain Lucid until everything works under ARCH.
> also, if your not going to remaster it into a livecd/usb you could install ARCH's kernel ...
will check; don't yet see through ARCH's different kernels.
don't even know if the kernel you mentioned would be back- or upgrade.
> also, whats your hardware? graphics card,etc?
it's just my test PC, a donnated Compaq EVO P4 1.7GHz (labelled D3M/P1 7/40/8/128c/oGR), 512MB mem, NVIDIA 16MB AGP CARD GFORCE2MX 200 Q06803.1, WD400 40GB and IBM DTLA 30GB IDE HDDs, AHA-2940U2W (with currently unconnected IBM 18GB scsi HDD and DAT drive), SCSI yamaha CD-R/W, IDE LTN CD-R, PCI NIC, and PCI sound card (sound works), LG flatron L1953TR LCD.
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