sorry i got it I posted to soon
"mke2fs -cv /dev/hdb1"
http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue38/cooper.html
That was the missing command I didn't know
I had it partioned and had a mount point ready
this howto above is really great..
only one question remains my hda partitions hda1 and hda2
show ext3 fs and hdb1 shows ext2 fs. The only difference I can come up with is the journaling. How do make hdb1 ext3 fs?