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Old 08-06-2004, 03:28 PM   #1
pimpz0r2000
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56k modem connection HELP!!!?!


Hey, i'm new here. I just got linux, so im a "n00b" to the whole *nix environment but i'm willing to learn. I got "fedora core 1" distro of linux. There is one tiny problem... i have a 56k modem.

To make it worse, my ISP is netzero.

I was told to get the winmodem driver/rpm for my LUCENT (i know youd probably ask later so i want to caps it) winmodem.

Ok, heres where my problem gets sticky, and please read through because i NEED help.

my ISP (netzero) only supports lindows distro of linux (wtf?). So, i heard that its a real pain in the arse to get the .deb to .rpm to work on fedora.. because netzero is just lame like that. I got the RPM at linmodems (.org) for my winmodem, and i double clicked it and it seemed to install (but im not sure if thats just unpacking stuff). So since i can't get netzero to work on linux, i was told about a "connection wizard" that lets you input the number to dial up to (for instance id just use my netzero number) and connect that way.

My questions are....

1. Where is this connection wizard?

2. i tried something that seemed like the connection wizard (but not sure) and it said it couldn't detect my modem.. which is weird because i got the RPM for it.

3. Did i install the RPM right? if not, how do i, or how do i activate it?

4. what do you recommend i do with my problem? (switching distros and/or ISP's is not an option)

Thank you for reading through.. ill provide more info if necassary and all and any help is appreciated. I tried to search first but didnt' find anyone who was as unfortuneate as me to have netzero and linux

I only used linux 3 times.. because its useless to me without online capabilities... SO PLEASE HELP!

thanks alot

-the J man
 
Old 08-07-2004, 07:31 AM   #2
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Please state the exact filename of the RPM that you installed.
 
Old 08-07-2004, 03:18 PM   #3
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Thanks for replying.

After some further research i found out that i got the wrong version of that RPM that i need. (go figure).

So sorry for the post above, i will go to linmodems.org and hopefully get the correct RPM.

(turns out i got the i586 version of the RPM)

Now, to ensure that i dont make the same mistake, a p4 2.66 ghz processor is i686 right?

-the J man
 
Old 08-07-2004, 03:39 PM   #4
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i586 code will run on an i686 processor.

The important thing when downloading driver (kernel module) rpm files is that they match the kernel that you are running, not your actual hardware. To find out what kernel you are running, look at the output of the command "uname -a": the architecture for which the kernel was compiled is often included in the kernel filename.

That's probably the most obtuse paragraph that I've written in a while :-)
 
Old 08-07-2004, 03:42 PM   #5
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I just downloaded the one i need for my kernel verion .. 2.4.22-1.2115.npth (i hope that looks like a kernel verion).

I used "unname -r" to get it instead of -a, i hope thats ok.

I gotta switch back over to linux and try to install it, i will edit this post to report the good/bad news... wish me luck.

-the J man
 
Old 08-07-2004, 04:44 PM   #6
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Hmmm.. I downloaded

ltmodem-kv_2.4.22_1.2115.nptl-8.26a9-1.i686 rpm file.

It matches everything perfectly. I put it on a floppy.. switch to linux. Login as root, and then move it to the desktop and double click.

First it unpacks things.. then it installs them. No errors, everything is working like a charm.

After it is done.... i go to the "internet configuration wizard" and click on "modem" (to set up my modem etc). BUT then when i click "forward" it says "cannot detect modem".

So... it doesn't seem like it worked.

What do you suggest i do now?

-the J man
 
Old 08-08-2004, 11:09 AM   #7
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I assume that this rpm includes a kernel module.

Find out what that module is called (trawl the readmes that came with the driver). Try loading it manually with "modprobe module-name" and see what that says.

Note that one may find out a list of files contained in an installed rpm by using "rpm -ql package-name". In this case, package-name is probably ltmodem-kv_2.4.22_1.2115.nptl, but it might be some other substring of the package filename. If in doubt, do "rpm -qa | grep ltmodem" (query all package names and find one that contains ltmodem).
 
Old 08-08-2004, 11:22 AM   #8
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Find out what that module is called (trawl the readmes that came with the driver). Try loading it manually with "modprobe module-name" and see what that says.

if modprobe fails, try insmod -f module_name this will force loading the module.
 
Old 08-08-2004, 11:32 AM   #9
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Don't know whether this will help.

When I used my winmodem lucent chip in linux, SUSE 7.0-9.0, I had to:
1. make sure I had root privledges to dial the internet
2. use a wvdial script to connect. For some reason I couldn't get the dam thing working anyway else.

For a script have a look at the linmodem-howto and modem-howto, and ensure you are using the right country code in your script.
 
Old 08-08-2004, 03:56 PM   #10
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Thanks for all the help so far, this forum rules.

I have gotten further since my last post, as the rpm didn't need any modification. it worked!!!!!!!

The reason i know it worked is because some kid told me to try and dial up with "kppp", so what i did was set up the number to dial to, all the options, and i put in my username and password and BAM it says "finding modem" and it actually DOES IT, then it movies on to dialing the number (which its not supposed to do unless it hears a dial tone so its good that it does!! ) . So it hears the dial tone, dials the number, it seems to kinda connect. It goes to the point where it says "starting up network" (i dont have a network). At this point i set it up to log whatever happens. It has an error, (error 19), authentication error. It tells me to check the username and password to see if they are correct.

I typed the username and password a billion times and i am 100% sure its perfectly correct. So, at this point i am

1. happy that it found the damned modem and the RPM worked.
2. it dials up correctly
3. disappointed that it got so far but yet failed.

I have been working on getting this far for a LONNNNGGG time. I dont want to give up just yet. What do you think i should do at this point since its giving me this authentication error? Does it matter that i dont have a network but it tries to start it up?

The same cat that told me about KPPP said i should find the path to PPP and do chmod 755 path/pppd.

This i think wont work because that just does file priveleges, doesn't it? (if so, im happy that i know SOMETHING about linux.).

Now, about the "root priveleges to access the internet", how do i set that up?

I am open to all suggestions except switching distro's and ISP's. thanks so much for the help this far.

-the J man
 
Old 08-09-2004, 04:57 AM   #11
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>This i think wont work because that just does file priveleges, doesn't it? (if so, im happy that i know SOMETHING about linux.).
That's right: the idea would be to allow non-root users to use pppd in order to dial up. But we're not at that stage yet.

If you've got wvdial, you might try that: it can be a little ugly to configure (involves editing a textual config file), but it can also give more instructive output when something is going wrong.

Failing that, just keep on fiddling with the authentication technique options in kppp.
 
Old 08-09-2004, 06:14 AM   #12
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I'd suggest KPPP once again . There should be a protocol option, probably set to PAP. Change that to CHAP or vice versa and try possible other protocols if there are any...
 
Old 08-09-2004, 11:19 AM   #13
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Thanks for the replies, but the authentication method was set to "PAP/CHAP" .. and i tried them individually too and still nothing.

I do however get "error 16" on one of them.. which is just about the only thing different (the other one was error 19)

another forum suggested that EVEN THOUGH my modem is recognized at KPPP, that i should try to get my modem setup better on internet configuration wizard. He said that i should indeed "modprobe" the RPM i got and then try internet configuration wizard again.

So, the way i see it here are all my options:

1. modprobe the rpm and do the thing on internet configuration wizard
2. do the wvdial (no idea what it is but im desperate so ill try that)
3. maybe the number im dialing is set up wrong.
4. i heard i could try to set up root to let me use the internet (if it isn't set that way by default)

thats a short list... so have anything to add to that?

for number 3, when i input the number to dial, i just put the number, no area code and no - to divide the number.. so it looked something like this

5558353 (the number is fake )

do i have to add something to that?

thanks again for the replies.. im close to solving this mystery

-the J man

Last edited by pimpz0r2000; 08-09-2004 at 11:20 AM.
 
Old 08-10-2004, 02:17 AM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by pimpz0r2000
... I do however get "error 16" on one of them.. which is just about the only thing different (the other one was error 19)
Can you find out the meaning of those error codes? Also, please post the pertinent content of /var/log/localmessages (from the last unsuccessful tries).

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Originally posted by pimpz0r2000
... 1. modprobe the rpm and do the thing on internet configuration wizard
2. do the wvdial (no idea what it is but im desperate so ill try that)
3. maybe the number im dialing is set up wrong.
4. i heard i could try to set up root to let me use the internet (if it isn't set that way by default)
1. modprobe just loads a module if it is not already there. Since you can get at the modem you obviously have access, thus I don't think you'll get lucky there...

2. wvdial is a console program (just type it in and it will do its thing). Configured by wvdial.conf <- search for it and edit as necessary.

3. Ask your provider or look at their home page how to do it correctly.

4. ?? Usually you have access, I don't really understand 4.

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