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Old 06-05-2002, 05:12 PM   #1
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256 MB RAM -- 512MB swap ?


I installed mandrake 8.2 but i can't get to play some games such as tux and many others properly , they just too f*** slow (even the mouse takes ages to move around) ,i thought that maybe my swap isn't enough i have only 128 MB swap and 256MB RAM (should be double?),or maybe there is some other library i need to download (cause i installed everything on my two cd sets except for server stuff , about 2,1GB :-)) also i get poor top values even when i'm using iceWM,blackbox or windowmaker :


Mem: 255536K av, 203736K used, 51800K free, 1400K shrd, 7760K buff
Swap: 763048K av, 240K used, 762808K free 117780K cached
 
Old 06-05-2002, 05:30 PM   #2
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it's probably an openGL issue (wrong driver, no driver, amount of video ram in config file doesn't match what is actually on the card, etc. )
 
Old 06-05-2002, 05:30 PM   #3
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this seems more like a graphic card problem, but indeed you need bigger swap
 
Old 06-05-2002, 05:44 PM   #4
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I am expreiencing the same thing when trying to play Chromium. I have 256 megs of ram and my swap is 512 megs.

Running SuSE 8.0 on my desktop computer. Install seemed to pick up on the video card just fine, it showed "Savage4 3d". Its a 32 meg AGP card. So I can't figure out why It won't play fast either!

If anybody has any ideas, please advise. Hopefully, this will confirm the earlier comment about it NOT being swap.

I think I'll check X86Config (or whatever its called) when I get home.

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Old 06-05-2002, 06:28 PM   #5
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this seems more like a graphic card problem, but indeed you need bigger swap
No, 128 MB is plenty swap as you can see the response below you, the person has 512 MB swap and his is slow too when playing games.
I've played games along with Tux racer on a crappy Voodoo 3 128MB RAM 400mhz Celeron with no problems. As rshaw stated, its most likely a driver type problem.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 04:19 AM   #6
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i really do fancy the idea of getting a posse to gether and tracking down everyone who maintains your swap file MUST be 2xRAM. sooo utterly untrue anymore.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 04:34 AM   #7
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That would be in the days when 16 -32 Mb of ram was a lot of ram. You needed a large swap file cause the o/s wanted more than it had.

On a system with at least 128Mb ram i limit my swap to about 100Mb - i had a few problems installing Red Hat with less.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 05:05 AM   #8
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I have 640MB of DDR RAM and a GIG of swap, and still TuxRacer is slow. I am sure it's an openGL issue, because on my old Celeron with 64mb RAM TuxRacer ran fine, smooth, and with no 'system drag'.

...On the issue, Acid, how to I resize my GIG of swap so I am only using 100mb or so instead of GIG. Should I just use my favorite partition manager and shrink it, add the extra space to whichever partition I choose? Or will that cause errors?
 
Old 06-06-2002, 05:07 AM   #9
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Start Tux (or another openGL program) in X with a vterm. See if there are any warnings or problems it spits out. I am at work or else I would do this for you.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 06:40 AM   #10
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i really do fancy the idea of getting a posse to gether and tracking down everyone who maintains your swap file MUST be 2xRAM. sooo utterly untrue anymore
Having offered similar advice to someone recently I will defend my actions on the basis that the asker of the question did not state the amount of RAM that they had. Whilst I may be running a sumptuous 512mb RAM, it would be arrogant to assume everyone else is.

I've no idea what happens when Linux runs out of swapfile space, but I'd rather be hated for wasting a few hundred megs of diskspace than suggesting a config that doesnt work correctly.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 06:41 AM   #11
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as I told you check your graphics driver + openGL
regards
 
Old 06-06-2002, 07:13 AM   #12
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Nelleh: the "asker of the question" said he had 256mb. I have 256 and even watching a film while compiling a kernel i seldom break into a swap file, and i have certainly never managed to get close to using 100mb yet.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 07:57 AM   #13
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Think we are talking about different posts, but point taken.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 08:29 AM   #14
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.... I have 256 and even watching a film while compiling a kernel i seldom break into a swap file, and i have certainly never managed to get close to using 100mb yet.
Isn't that nice? That's why I love linux. And choose to use it more than windows. You can watch movies, process/convert movies, rip MP3's, compile programs, compile a kernel, and have 15 browsers continually loading a repeating page... all at the same time and all on 2mb of RAM. That alone is good enough for me to never switch back.

On topic...

I am going to test out my other graphics card tonight and see if it "fixes" the problem. I hope not because I love mine. But if so, I guess it's about time to check out the new line of cards anyway.
 
Old 06-06-2002, 08:57 AM   #15
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MasterC:
I think you'll need few kb more than 2mb of RAM with all those apps you counted
 
  


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