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Old 06-28-2003, 09:05 AM   #1
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redhat 9 quake 3


hello all. First post here, hope someone can help me shed some light on this problem...

I just installled a fresh rh9 on my machine (nvidia geforce2 pro, amd). so far i have really liked it (being almost a complete linux newb), and i have *almost* found all of the functionality that i personally need to be rid of winxp once and for all. really, there is only one more hurdle for me to deal with. probably 80-90% of my computer time is spent playing quake3, and as such i would like it to run under linux I downloaded the latest point release that i could find at the time: linuxq3apoint-1.32.x86.run. I have the retail windows cd, so i used the .pak files from that to get going in linux. I have also installed the latest nvidia drivers from their website: v. 1.0-4363. I had made the changes in my XConfig to use nvidia as the device driver.

Now heres the catch. Everything went really smooth, and i was happy as a bunch of peaches when quake3 loaded up. opening cinematics played fine, then i came to the game menu. everything *seemed* fine, until i tried to move my mouse around. no luck. i could navigate the in-game menus with the keyboard, and i was able to start a game with no problem. game started, and i was able to use the keyboard without a problem. even the mouse buttons worked when i pushed them. but i still had no mouse movement at all.

search of these and other forums, and i find that there is a 1.32b release for q3. well, i head over to the id ftp and grab the 1.32b release. installed it, and everything seemed to be moving smoothly. after the install, i try to start quake3, and now there is nothing. i either get a blank screen with no response from the keyboard (ctrl-al-backspace does nada), or i get the first frame rendered of the id logo that comes up at the beginning of the game, and then a freeze. complete lockup.

has anyone else had this problem, or might (hope hope) be able to shed some light on this issue? for me, this would be the last hurdle to moving completely to linux and regaining the bloated winxp partition on this machine.

any help is greatly appreciated! thx
 
Old 06-28-2003, 11:02 AM   #2
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Hi!

First of all, is it possible for you to downgrade Quake III back to the point you had it working, but had no mouse control?

If you're back to the point with Quake III running without mouse, can you try the following :

<exit game>

"su -"
<root password>

"service gpm stop"

<try to run Quake III again>

Good luck!
 
Old 06-28-2003, 12:22 PM   #3
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thanks, i'll give it a try and see what happens!
 
Old 06-28-2003, 12:56 PM   #4
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Voila! I can't thank you enough for the wonderful advice! No need to roll back the update, too. Appreciate the help!
 
Old 06-28-2003, 12:57 PM   #5
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Now you can come full time into Linux
 
Old 06-28-2003, 12:57 PM   #6
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pld: where do you get the q3 game for linux?? I have it for windows. I sthere any way of playing q3 without bying the game for linux. Wheredo you download q3 for linux??
 
Old 06-28-2003, 01:00 PM   #7
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Just do a google search for the latest Quake 3 point release (1.32b) and run the script, this will install a basic q3 install, just copy over your pak0.pk3 over /usr/local/games/quake3/baseq3 directory.
 
Old 06-28-2003, 01:02 PM   #8
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thanks very much
 
Old 06-28-2003, 01:05 PM   #9
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Do you think it works on a Athlon 1.2 - 320Mb RAM - TNT2 - RH9 ??

I can run it very good in Windows, i slower for linux or works fine??
 
Old 06-28-2003, 01:08 PM   #10
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Just fine, don't worry. Maybe even better than Windows (you'll see...)
 
Old 06-28-2003, 04:09 PM   #11
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Ahh... I recently tried to run Quake 3, but ran into problems a few minutes later. The game freezes (not the system, just the game), and I am able to bring it back on, the first time it happens by ctrl+alt+F1, login as root and killing the quake3 proces (not the quake3.x86 one) by
Code:
# killall quake3
The game gets back and I am happy for a while. Problem is, that when it freezes for a second time, there is no other process to kill rarther than quake3.x86 (the game itself).

Does anyone ahve this same problem?

Note: Doing some researtch on google about this problem, I found out that I could have something to do with kernels compiled with AMD Athlon support (may be the 4 Mb memory page file?). The freeze is termporal (as they say in this "Quake3 HOWTO") and lasts about 10-20 seconds (in my case even several minutes). Can anyone please check this info and tell us (quakers) if this an idiosincratic bug of my system or it is consistent.

Hardware config:
ECS Mobo, SiS 735 Chipset with drivers compiled into the kernel.
512 Mb DDR 2700 RAM
AMD AthlonXP 1800+ (1533 MHz clock), Kernel compiled for AMD K7, Duron
ATi Radeon 9500 128 Mb DDR VRAM (non pro) with driver 2.9.12 from Schneider-digital.

The problem may as well be the ATi card, has anyone with an nVidia card had any problems of this kind?

Edit:
I don't think it would be related to the video card, because I can perfectly play UT classic (with compressed textures) and UT2003 without any problems. Problem is seen with Q3 related engines (Q3, RTCW, SoF2, via Wine; FAKK2, via Wine also).

Last edited by Thetargos; 06-28-2003 at 05:09 PM.
 
Old 07-29-2003, 05:32 PM   #12
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Hey everyone - I'm even more newbish.... I also have Redhat 9 running, and ive downloaded the same file, and copied my files. my question is - how do i run that file i downloaded??
 
Old 07-30-2003, 04:51 PM   #13
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It's easy. Just open a console, go to the directory where you downloaded the Linux-q3a-blah-blah.bin file and type in the console ./linux-blah-blah.bin (you can type linux if it is the only file named that and press tab, to autocmplete the filename).

A few observation here are: Log in as root or "su" into root (type su at the console and provide root's password) and then run the Quake installer. That should provide you with a basic Quake3 directory layout, copy the pak0.pk3 file to your baseq3 directory under /usr/local/games/quake3 and you'll be set. Run the game and have fun!!!

Observation #2: Make sure your video drivers support 3D rendering (either nVidia and ATi supply drivers for Linux)

Have fun!
 
Old 08-01-2003, 11:36 PM   #14
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ok i get permission denied wether im logged in as a super user or not
 
Old 08-01-2003, 11:37 PM   #15
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nm.... for some reason the permissions were set to read and write but not execute... grrr

is this something i'll have to check every time i download something?? or when i copied it does it default to those settings

yes i know... talk about a newb.
 
  


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