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janakiramulu 02-23-2011 05:28 AM

,what is the best Host Distro to use to start your LFS system
 
In everyone's opinion, what is the best Host Distro to use to start your LFS system

i am planning to make lfs,i am thinking to follow lfs6.1 book,

1q)shall i use directly lfs6.1 book to lfs,there is no problem na
can any one suggest which lfs should i follow to successful making of lfs(my new)

2q)where i can get all at one place(packages) -which they mention in lfs6.1

3q)everyone saying that building of lfs would be in holepartition(we have to use)
4q) my hard disk was 75gb,in that windows xp was there as one of the primary partition ,i have 10gb logical partition(i am thinking to use this partition to/for lfs,no problem na)
5q)in lfs 6.1 book ,they mentioned that for lfs min 3gb partition is required,that is why i selected my 10gb logical partition
can any one give elaborate explanation

thanks in advance

EricTRA 02-23-2011 05:32 AM

Hello,

LFS 6.1? Why would you start learning an 'old' version of LFS? The current stable release is at 6.7. Get your latest documentation and downloads at http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/.

Kind regards,

Eric

TobiSGD 02-23-2011 05:39 AM

1. I would recommend to use the latest stble book, currently 6.7.
2. You can find a wget-list for obtaining the packages at the bottom of Chapter 3.1: Introduction. You can use
Code:

man wget
to see how to use it.
3.+4.+5. 3 GB (as mentioned in the book) is the minimum to build an LFS system. If you want to add more programs to your install (you probably will, if you actually want to use that install) you should give it more space. 10 GB should be sufficient.

druuna 02-23-2011 02:31 PM

Hi,

Quote:

Originally Posted by janakiramulu
2q)where i can get all at one place(packages) -which they mention in lfs6.1

All the 6.X packages are available as a tar-ball right here: lfs-packages

I also believe, like EricTRA and TobiSGD, that you should build the latest stable LFS version.

ProtoformX 02-23-2011 03:38 PM

No one has seemed to answer the OP, so I will, I would suggest Slackware as a host, it comes with all dependency's and has an added bonus of being completely stock for the most part, so a LFS build should have no problems being done under Slackware.

Can anyone else recommend a host OS, instead of tell the user what version he/she should be using?

druuna 02-24-2011 01:19 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by ProtoformX (Post 4268946)
No one has seemed to answer the OP, so I will, I would suggest Slackware as a host, it comes with all dependency's and has an added bonus of being completely stock for the most part, so a LFS build should have no problems being done under Slackware.

Can anyone else recommend a host OS, instead of tell the user what version he/she should be using?

The OP has a second thread in this sub-forum that already answered the host question.

Repeated short answer: Use the LFS liveCD if at all possible. It was build to be the perfect host.

Hope this helps.

janakiramulu 02-24-2011 03:51 AM

which one is host system for lfs
 
hi all
hi druna

1q)which lfs live cd32 bit/86 bit) should i use,which will give successful(to build lfs successful)
2q) where can i get all patches(i need to download na)

3q) by ur suggations i will use lfs 6.7 book,

4q) provide good info(examples) for -
--how to compile packages
--how to install packages,paches,
--how to overwrite packeges,
--how to install packages beside of alredy installed packages
5q)main q: i am planning to use 10gb partition(which is one logical partition in my hard disk) ,is there any problem
(in may hard disk (total 70gb) already on 20gb(C DRIVE: NTFS)-windowas xp was there,around 45gb(E DRIVE:NTFS) i am using for my personal data(i stored))
-6Q)LFS LIVE CDs are they like ubuntu/fedora/...)
7q)shall i install lfs live cd in system or shall i use only as live
what i am asking is bit confusing to me
thanku

druuna 02-24-2011 04:10 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by janakiramulu (Post 4269448)
hi all
hi druna

It is druuna, not druna.....

Quote:

1q)which lfs live cd32 bit/86 bit) should i use,which will give successful(to build lfs successful)
If you have a 32 bit system use the x86 version (lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160.iso), if you have a 64 bit capable machine use the x86_64 version (lfslivecd-x86_64-6.3-r2160.iso)

Quote:

2q) where can i get all patches(i need to download na)

4q) provide good info(examples) for -
--how to compile packages
--how to install packages,paches,
These are all answered in the LFS book.

Quote:

--how to overwrite packeges,
--how to install packages beside of alredy installed packages
I think you should first try to install LFS as is. At a later point you can possibly add package management (look at the hints page for details).

Quote:

5q)main q: i am planning to use 10gb partition(which is one logical partition in my hard disk) ,is there any problem
(in may hard disk (total 70gb) already on 20gb(C DRIVE: NTFS)-windowas xp was there,around 45gb(E DRIVE:NTFS) i am using for my personal data(i stored))
This was already answered by TobiSGD.

Quote:

-6Q)LFS LIVE CDs are they like ubuntu/fedora/...)
No. Explained on the LFS liveCD page.

Quote:

7q)shall i install lfs live cd in system or shall i use only as live
You can't install the LFS liveCD, it is meant to be a suitabvle host.

As already stated by TobiSGD and me in your other lfs thread: I doubt if you are ready to start building an LFS system. It is, of course, up to you to do so, but you might have a very hard time when your knowledge is this basic (just warning you, you might get in way over your head).

Hope this helps.

janakiramulu 02-24-2011 05:21 AM

using of lfs live cd
 
hi
druuna, sorry for spell out

k mine sysem was 32 bit
(lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160.iso ),where can i get these all lfslivecd.isos

how can i use this lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160.iso as a host,shall burn into cd?

i will do hard work,please encourage me to do suuceessful of lfs

thanks for fast response

druuna 02-24-2011 05:29 AM

Quote:

where can i get these all lfslivecd.isos
Do you actually read the replies you get???? The link has been posted twice already (this thread _and_ your other lfs thread)!!

Quote:

how can i use this lfslivecd-x86-6.3-r2160.iso as a host,shall burn into cd?
It is called a live CD for a reason.....

janakiramulu 02-25-2011 11:12 PM

lfs building
 
hi druuna thanks for reply the things

u mention lfs livecds available::ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs-livecd/(its empty)-
any way i got lfslivecd(ver-x86-6.3-r2160.iso(621mb file) from google
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i got

1q)what exaclty lfs livecd,why its use(its different than linux destroys)

1ans) LFS LiveCD is specifically toward providing a reliable host system for the purpose of building 'Linux From Scratch' only.
( Linux distros are built in such a way that make it difficult to successfully build LFS using that distro as a host).
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

i jusr burn lfslivecd(ver-x86-6.3-r2160.iso(621mb file) into cd,i tried live in system
its booting k,but
at last one commandline came like -'root[~]#'--here what do i need to type to live environment-----
2q)is this .iso file will run(live) all types of system environment( i read readme.txt file its showing like-'Xorg (X Window System Environment)'
3q)which is better
shall i use any dedicated partition (i have 10 gb- i decided to use this 10gb for lfs)
or
shall i use whole harddisk to build lfs

4q: when i start build lfs,do i need to use lfs livecd every time(till lfs build succesful)
if any thing more info -i will add it

can u narrate above things plz

EricTRA 02-26-2011 02:19 AM

Hello,

Don't expect LQ users to hold your hand. You'll learn a lot more in discovering and doing things yourself.

You need to read the documentation at hand for LFS, which might I say is very complete. If you don't have a clue on how to partition your disk for LFS, how to start a X session from a LiveCD command prompt, then might I say you'd better start with something else. Linux From Scratch teaches you a lot about Linux and how it works but it also assumes that you at least have the basics covered and know your way around a Linux environment. Most of all it assumes you are able to find, read and understand the necessary documentation, which seems to be a problem for you. A good start is the LFS site where you can Download a copy of the LFS book. Download that, start reading and learning and apply.

Kind regards,

Eric

druuna 02-26-2011 02:48 AM

Hi,
Quote:

Originally Posted by janakiramulu (Post 4271587)
hi druuna thanks for reply the things

u mention lfs livecds available::ftp://ftp.lfs-matrix.net/pub/lfs-livecd/ (its empty)-
any way i got lfslivecd(ver-x86-6.3-r2160.iso(621mb file) from google

No, I never pointed to that link (It doesn't exist)!

You probably incorrectly used the link I posted for the packages/tar-balls (post #4). The indirect link is given in post #2, the direct link is given in post #8 (and post #3 in your other thread)!! You need to read more carefully.

Quote:

i jusr burn lfslivecd(ver-x86-6.3-r2160.iso(621mb file) into cd,i tried live in system its booting k,but at last one commandline came like -'root[~]#'--here what do i need to type to live environment-----
Once you have the root prompt (root [ ~ ]# ), the system is up and running and you are ready to start building. Maybe you expected a graphical environment. That is also possible: the startx command will start the graphical environment.

I do hope you realize that once you finish building LFS you will _not_ have a Linux system with a graphical environment environment. LFS is nothing more than a minimal, working Linux environment. Once you finish LFS you can have a look at BLFS. BLFS, among other things, tells you how to build a graphical environment.

Quote:

2q)is this .iso file will run(live) all types of system environment( i read readme.txt file its showing like-'Xorg (X Window System Environment)'
I think I don't understand what you are asking.....

The iso you downloaded (ver-x86-6.3-r2160.iso) is for 32 bit systems, there is also a x86_64 iso (I already mentioned this in post #8).

Quote:

3q)which is better shall i use any dedicated partition (i have 10 gb- i decided to use this 10gb for lfs) or shall i use whole harddisk to build lfs
This is the third time you are asking this. What was unclear about the previous 2 answers????? READ POST #3

Quote:

4q: when i start build lfs,do i need to use lfs livecd every time(till lfs build succesful)
Yes you do.

janakiramulu 02-26-2011 04:31 AM

hi
EricTRA,druuna
for druuna 2q was that lfslivecd(which i was downloaded) will it work on all systems(mine is hp desktop),
is it (lfslivecd)independent to system configuration
-----------------------------------------------------

-------moove??-----
i haave hp desktop around 75gb ,1gb ram
i did following partition my hard disk

20gb for windowsxp professinal(ntfs)(installed)-primary partition
remaining gb is extended partition

in extended partition;
-30gb for personal data(ntfs)
-15gb for ubuntu 10.04(istalled)-one logical partition(ext4 )-mounted@media
-1gb swap partition( i allocated)-one logical partition(ext4)
-10gb for i dedicated for lfs-one logical partition(ext4)-mounted @/mnt

here i followed lfsbook6.1.1-i started lfs building
i did following

mke4fs -v /dev/[lfs]-(here i used gparted to do the things-instead of using command)
mkswap -v /dev/[yyy]-( here i used ubuntu swap partition -instead of creating new swap partition for this)
export LFS=/mnt/lfs-(i gave var name)
mkdir -pv $LFS
mount -v /dev/[xxx] $LFS
mkdir -v $LFS/sources -(i created dir)
chmod -v a+wt $LFS/sources--Make this directory writable and sticky.
next step i downloaded some packages which mentioned in lfsbook6.1.1
then oneday i surf the linux from scratch.org site,there i can find that using linux destroys its difficult to success building lfs
so ,i removed ubuntu10.4 from my systemi mooved to lfs livecd for this(building lfs)
here i am little strucking,

- i am very eager to learn the things/build the lfs
plz coperate me
thanks

spiky0011 02-26-2011 03:40 PM

explain where you are up to so far. What are you stuck with?


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