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LFS is a project that provides you with the steps necessary to build your own custom Linux system.

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Old 10-04-2012, 04:55 AM   #16
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okay, thats fine but i wanna use your linux online. can you please let me use it through teamviewer or something? i would really appreciate that. because i wanna check it virtually that
how it is, how it feels like and so. i also wanna test few things like some support of network or so. if you do so, then i would really appreciate that.
Absolutely not! I am willing like anyone else on this forum to help and answer your questions but I am not set up nor would I want to be set up to open my system for remote control.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 05:05 AM   #17
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okay..well, i'm not a hacker or something u shold be afraid of. anyways, can you just upload a couple of more screen shots of it? with open start-menu and also one with its installer **thats what i am afraid of).
does it apt-get install things? and also if not, then how do u install apps on it? after compilation of source?
and i also wanna ask about its requirments. because as i've read about clfs, what the heck is cross-linux? isnt lfs cross-linux? if it could install on any 64bit or 32bit system architecture..?
 
Old 10-04-2012, 05:30 AM   #18
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okay..well, i'm not a hacker or something u shold be afraid of. anyways, can you just upload a couple of more screen shots of it? with open start-menu and also one with its installer **thats what i am afraid of).
does it apt-get install things? and also if not, then how do u install apps on it? after compilation of source?
and i also wanna ask about its requirments. because as i've read about clfs, what the heck is cross-linux? isnt lfs cross-linux? if it could install on any 64bit or 32bit system architecture..?
Never said you were! it's just not a question that should really be asked.
some more screenshots here:http://keithhedger.hostingsiteforfre.../desktopshots/ or have prowl round my webset there's various screenshots there.

Xfce doesn't have a 'start' menu it is much more like gnome2 than kde/windows.
As I said in a previous post I don't use apt/yum or any other available package managers ( I use my own ) all my apps are compiled from source, if you want to use somthing like apt-get you would have to compile/and inbstall it yourself I can't help you with that.

CLFS installs BOTH 32bit and 64bit subsytems, if you only want 64bit or 32bit then go for the normal LFS, you can' install a 64bit system and then just run a 32bit app as you would not have the appropriate 32bit library's and vise versa of course also you need to do a little jiggory pokery with the kernel to get it to run both 32 and 64 bit apps.

I don't understand what you mean by 'it's installer' there is no installer for LFS ( that's sort of the point ! )
 
Old 10-04-2012, 06:14 AM   #19
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thanks...u know what..i kinda fell in love with your OS.. but i wanna ask that if you have to change the contents of application menu itself or may want to rename the application menu itself, or wanna change the xfce logo which
usually comes beside application menu, then how would you do that; could i do that from source? is it well commented or just roughly written. have you edited anything in xfce **desktop before?
actually before a year ago, when i was in my last grade of school, i started learning programming at mac, and now i've developed a mac's game and a couple of more things. but to linux, i am pretty new, i explored linux before a couple of years ago when i was 14, but now i started develop linux itself just to know more about linux (what linux actually is), and now with the help of you guys, i've learned a lot, even more then mac that how linux works or so, **well mac is the same thing too, but linux is pretty cool. so, if you got frustrate with my questions, then kindly forget about it for a while.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 07:20 AM   #20
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...but i wanna ask that if you have to change the contents of application menu itself or may want to rename the application menu itself, or wanna change the xfce logo which
usually comes beside application menu, then how would you do that...
The contents of the application menu is updated automatically when a new .desktop file is installed either locally or globally these are usually part of the install process but you can do them manually, the xfce logo is easy to change you just need to change the relevant .png file, for themeing go here:http://xfce-look.org/ for Xfce specific questions/downloads go here:http://www.xfce.org

I don't think you could easily change the Applications menu name itself it is probably hard coded.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 09:11 AM   #21
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@ Hedger and Stoat great read about LFS and BLFS. I have been kicking around the idea of installing Lfs again and attempting to install BLFS this winter when it is cold outside. I also agree with using Slackware as the host. I've installed LFS before and had the least amount of trouble using Slackware versus Ubuntu, Debian, and even the LFS CD. Once again thanks.
 
Old 10-04-2012, 12:06 PM   #22
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Hi Keith,

Your desktop looks really cool, but what is most awesome is that you built it yourself and it's your own usable desktop distro!

It provides great inspiration for doing the same thing,and now I've built my LFS system (using Ubuntu 12.04 as the host and with no major errors the second time) I will be aiming for building a desktop system that can replace my own main system.

I was wondering what partition size you used to construct the system on? The LFS guide recommends 10Gb as a happy medium to build the initial LFS system and also as sufficient to build most of BLFS, but I am used to thinking in larger terms for a system drive. Maybe that's just because I am so used to working with bloatware!

P.s. LFSHolly lol. Maybe your system could have got the part in the new series!
 
Old 10-04-2012, 12:27 PM   #23
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Hi

It would depend on what desktop you want to use and how much you want to install when finished
 
Old 10-04-2012, 12:31 PM   #24
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Been a fan since series one ... I feel so old
My first LFS partition was about 15G if I remember but I recently had to replace my hardware and it now stands at 100G so plenty of room to add stuff!
 
Old 10-04-2012, 01:24 PM   #25
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So did you build straight onto a 100Gb partition? It's just that the guide talks about using the whole drive as being inappropriate for LFS. But I do not think that is necessarily the case in the specific instance of building a dedicated system. I think it means from the perspective of maybe wanting to have multiple partitions on the same drive to enable building multiple LFS systems, sharing of a common toolchain and making backups easier, as if you are using the system as a test bed (it's in section 2.2.1 of the guide).

If I was building a dedicated desktop environment I would naturally use the entire drive and think no more of it and, as you said, leave plenty of room to add stuff later. But I'm always nervous about straying from the recommendations in the guide without asking you guys first!
 
Old 10-04-2012, 01:38 PM   #26
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Actually I just dumped my small LFS install to an external drive partitioned the new new machine added the boot partition an grub and restored the LFS to the new larger partition, I went from a 180G to 500G drive, I like to have a couple of spare partitions to experiment with and I also use a small(ish) boot partition which contains backup/restore disaster apps etc ( actually Parted Magic with some extra bits ).
While building the original LFS on the smaller partition I used Slackware on another Partition.
 
Old 10-08-2012, 09:12 AM   #27
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Hi Keith...
i still gotta ask you something: can you please tell me that can i build/install lfs 7.2 on mac..? i mean mac os x mountain lion as a host?
i've tried couple of commands like compiling kernel in os x's terminal and so, and it did everything well...
make and make install, tar and almost everything else works fine...so, should i use it or not?
i couldnt able to install ubuntu or slackware or any other linux distro bootable at my mac...

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BTW, i've completed my previous lfs at my mac virtual machine with ubuntu host and it got perfect, and infect it got booted but something happened at grub boot and i got an error.
but now, i'm gonna rebuild lfs again because i love to do this...

so can you please suggest me for that?
it'll be great if i could built lfs at mac...
because it is also unix, and i've heard that unix and linux are almost identical. isnt it?
 
Old 10-08-2012, 09:26 AM   #28
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sorry never tried to build lfs on a mac just know that slackintosh installs fine and xfce4.10 compiles fine. my mac is packed up ( i'm moving ) so I don't have access to it at the moment check out the cross lfs site for compiling for the mac.
 
Old 10-10-2012, 07:32 AM   #29
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Hey Keith, i've looked at your os's screenshots again and wondering about how did you put that processes realtime display at your desktop?
is that an application or just link from terminal?
if it is an app, then which one?
and also can you give me its link to download? actually i've tried lfs again at ubuntu, and failed at grub loading.
and now...again its like my trust is gonna broke at lfs... and also,
can i install ur os at my virtual machine?
and BTW, i've also tried lfs at mac...but couldnt build it because of mac's directory system in its root...
but i've read a forum through which you can build lfs at mac but it is really complicated enough. and i dont wanna
perjure myself right now into that kinda hard complication. **because i wanna complete stable-lfs at linux first.
thanks!..
 
Old 10-10-2012, 01:18 PM   #30
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Hey Keith, i've looked at your os's screenshots again and wondering about how did you put that processes realtime display at your desktop?
is that an application or just link from terminal?
if it is an app, then which one?
and also can you give me its link to download? actually i've tried lfs again at ubuntu, and failed at grub loading.
and now...again its like my trust is gonna broke at lfs... and also,
can i install ur os at my virtual machine?
and BTW, i've also tried lfs at mac...but couldnt build it because of mac's directory system in its root...
but i've read a forum through which you can build lfs at mac but it is really complicated enough. and i dont wanna
perjure myself right now into that kinda hard complication. **because i wanna complete stable-lfs at linux first.
thanks!..
It's conky http://cblfs.cross-lfs.org/index.php/Conky
No you couldn't just run a dump of my OS on your virtual machine as it is heavily optimized for my hardware, you would just make too many problems for yourself, you seem to be having all sorts of problems with lfs in the virtual machine, would it not be better to clear some space and create a dedicated lfs partition you can use?
 
  


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