xfce desktop environment:

i am following onlne blfs-svn book:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs...roduction.html
Chapter 25. Window Managers:Introduction

-Window Managers and Desktop Environments are the primary user interfaces into the X Window System.
A window manager is a program that controls the appearance of windows and provides the means by which the user can interact with them. A Desktop Environment provides a more complete interface to the operating system, and provides a range of integrated utilities and applications.

-The Desktop Environments available for Linux are GNOME, KDE, and XFce.

Choosing a Window Manager or Desktop Environment is highly subjective. The choice depends on the look and feel of the packages, the resources (RAM, disk space) required, and the utilities included. One web site that provides a very good summary of what is available, screenshots, and their respective features is Window Managers for X.

i have installed - Window Manager
* Fluxbox-1.1.1

everything is fine,its working great
so
i want xfce desktop environment:
i cant find out instructions for xfce to install
so what to do?????

http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.8/ would be a good place to start.
If you are doing LFS i suppose you are compiling everything from scratch, so just do the same with xfce.

hi cheese1343

i done-lfs-6.7 and now at blfs-svn:::
k i will get all packages from here http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.8/
do i need whole 4.8 dir????

can any one provide solutions to below q:
i have installed - Window Managers
* Fluxbox-1.1.1

1)instructions [steps] to install xfce:http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.8/
2)how to modify xinitrc to start xfce4

Hi,
I never actually did lfs, but from experience with installing KDE from source on slackware 13.1 i suppose you should download the whole directories on the site, with wget or any other method, then compile just like any other software (untar, configure, make, make install).
As for xinitrc, i think it would go something like this:

!/bin/sh

~/.xinitrc

exec startfluxbox
exec startxfce4
exec xfce4-session

Hope that helps =)

Hi,
Have a look here: Building Xfce

Hope this helps.

hi druuna thanks for reply and also information
but in my case i have not installed git?
how to get this???
one more thing i want /xfce/4.8/ as xfce -desktop environment thats it ,

if so in my case what would be the - '$category/$module' part

from this which one should i choose:
http://git.xfce.org/xfce

name description

exo -> Application library for the Xfce desktop environment
garcon ->Freedesktop.org compliant menu library
gtk-xfce-engine ->Xfce gtk theme engine with various different themes
installit ->Graphical installer for Xfce
libfrap ->Sandbox library
libxfce4menu ->Freedesktop.org compliant menu library, replaced by Garcon
libxfce4ui ->Widgets library for the Xfce desktop environment
libxfce4util ->Extension library for Xfce
libxfcegui4 ->GUI-related extension library for Xfce (deprecated)
thunar ->Modern, fast and easy-to-use file manager for Xfce
thunar-desktop-plugin ->(create a module.xml file to set this module's description)
thunar-vfs ->The virtual filesystem, previously shipped with Thunar
thunar-volman ->Automatic management of removable drives and media for Thuna...
tumbler Thumbnail ->service implementing the thumbnail management D-Bu...
xfce-installers ->Graphical installer (InstallIt) config files
xfce-utils ->Startup scripts, run dialog, and about dialog
xfce4-appfinder ->Shows the applications installed on your system in categorie...
xfce4-dev-tools ->Autoconf macros and scripts to augment app build systems
xfce4-docs ->Meta-package for Xfce end user documentation
xfce4-panel ->Xfce's panel
xfce4-power-manager ->Power Manager for Xfce
xfce4-session ->Xfce's session manager
xfce4-settings ->Xfce's Configuration System
xfconf ->D-Bus-based configuration storage system
xfdesktop ->Xfce's desktop manager
xfwm4 ->Xfce's window manager
[root/sources]# git clone git://git.xfce.org/$category/$module]

Hi,
You yourself provided a URL to the xfce sources, use that. No need to use git.

hi druuna
k
one small thing
1) how can i see 'file manager' in my present case:right now i am using fluxfox only to interact with the system
i cant create,delete dir ,and check size of dir by manually[means with mouse], with file manager we can right??
everything am using coammands via xterm/terminator
2)when the system power on/start after entering root, and password why its not loading x window directly:
everytime i am doing:to start x window by manually :startx only
[i.e root[~]#startx]


3)instructions [steps] to install xfce:http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.8/
i want to do like below is this fine
# download and check packages
grep -v '^#' ../${section}-${version}.wget | wget -i- -c \
-B http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/individual/${section}/
md5sum -c ../${section}-${version}.md5

#bash -e

# build packages
for package in $(grep -v '^#' ../${section}-${version}.wget)
do
packagedir=$(echo $package | sed 's/.tar.bz2//')
tar -xf $package
cd $packagedir
./configure $XORG_CONFIG
make
make install
cd ..
rm -rf $packagedir
done 2>&1 | tee -a ../xorg-${section}-compile.log #log the entire loop

Hi,
I'm not that familiar with fluxbox and I never use a file manager myself, so I cannot point you to "the" file manager that comes with fluxbox (I even doubt if one is present). When building from source you should feel comfortable with the command line.

Although this is out of scope for BLFS it does mention the following: GDM-2.30.2 - The GDM package contains GNOME's Display Manager daemon. This is useful for allowing configurable graphical logins.

This won't work because it is BLFS specific, XFCE isn't part of BLFS and so you cannot use that approach.

Follow the instructions in the link I posted previously.

Hope this helps.

In /etc/profile:
i have like below:
# Set the initial PKG_CONFIG_PATH
export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/share/pkgconfig

check this below instructions is this right,do any changes require
then i will follow to install xfce:

-----now for xfce-4.8---------------

->Installation location and variables

1)export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="/usr/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH" [in my case ${PREFIX}=/usr ]

->Compiling and installing:
below step is for i can do for tar *** .tar.bz2 file and but i have seen some .sha1 files how can i do it for them:[sha1]

2)./configure --prefix=${PREFIX} && make && make install [in my case ${PREFIX}=/usr ]

[url]http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.8/
Icon Name -
[DIR] fat_tarballs/
[DIR] src/

if we do installation as in loop[i have tried but no success] for them ,we can install them all at a time and shorty
plz provide solutions

Fluxbox is a window manager, not a group of desktop apps like KDE or GNOME. So it doesn't have a file manager.

Hi,
Is this informational? Just do as stated on the building page. If you choose for /usr as PREFIX, it probably isn't needed (it probably already exists), but it does not hurt to add it just in case.

The *md5 and *sha1 files are there in case you want to check the validity of the bz2 packages. Ignore them for now.

Is this informational again? I don't know what you are trying to tell or ask.

Like I stated before: Do not use a loop, follow what the building page states. That page also tells you to install in a particular order (Package specific dependencies).

Hope this helps.

hi drunna
k just see : i will ignore md5*,sha1* files now,and i will consider only .bz2 files k
sorry above informations is provided by me as not in order
check this


Installation location and variables
step1) root[/sources]# mkdir 4.8
step2) root[/sources]#cd /4.8
-here i will download all tarball,md5,sha1 fileshttp://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.8/ using wget.
step3) root[/sources/4.8]#export PKG_CONFIG_PATH="${PREFIX}/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH"


Compiling and installing
step4) root[/sources/4.8]# here i have all the tarballs,and i need to unpack each of them . Inside each package directory i should run the following command:
./configure --prefix=${PREFIX} && make && make install

is this fine????
[why i am keep on asking this means i am afraiding to give to try multiple times without following good instruction.because its good to follow instructions instead of something will go wrong-as my way]

That is what the building page says. Did something go wrong?