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Poll: Which would you rather use in enterprise of the two distros referred to?
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Which would you rather use in enterprise of the two distros referred to?

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Ubuntu LTS with paid support from Canonical
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Old 12-29-2013, 10:43 PM   #16
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@TobiSGD: the documentation is available to the public on the documentation section of the redhat site, so anyone can read them.

But even though in the case the op presented, i choose rhel, we have to admit that ubuntu has done a few interesting things and they have done very well to create a fan base, so they are not to be discarded completely. Many hosting providers do actually provide services very successfully using ubuntu based servers, however, i believe that many of us here feel that ubuntu is still a bit of a new comer. I personally do not use ubuntu, i just don't like the way things work, but rhel7 will pack a lot of change as well. However in the case of rhel, one can prety much rely on their documentation to get one through the process.
 
Old 12-29-2013, 11:57 PM   #17
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Hi.
https://www.redhat.com/wapps/store/c...xYKZ1.6a751b80
http://shop.canonical.com/index.php?cPath=41_39
I've played with both for some time but strictly as a hobiest I'd use canonical... Debian is my favorite after 15+ years now. Best wishes and have fun.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 01:49 AM   #18
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Think of how your clients would view your performace in the workplace.

If your running a workplace and your OS isn't stable that could show a discrepancy or flaw in the enterprises competency. That could wreck it for the IT gentelmen:-

IMO the Red Hat documentation is complete and authoritatively clear-

If I were to start a enterprise envirnment tomorrow it most certainly would not be Ubuntu.
I'm running Ubuntu and it's always something with that distro that I have to fix or tweak.

With my Fedora, I have never had any problems in 2 years-
 
Old 12-30-2013, 09:07 AM   #19
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I like a lot of software and both have there problems on that (one a little more,) never had a Fedora (have not used in two years) last long with updates and such so for me best I use Debian and cut out the middle *ware. Have had Debian run seemingly for ever some upgrades can still brake things but easier on the tweaking in my view.

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Old 12-30-2013, 10:04 AM   #20
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I like a lot of software and both have there problems on that (one a little more,) never had a Fedora (have not used in two years) last long with updates and such so for me best I use Debian and cut out the middle *ware. Have had Debian run seemingly for ever some upgrades can still brake things but easier on the tweaking in my view.
Absolutely agree with this! I go to centos first then if i cannot get what i want debian. But debian is really solid. I also have not had much luck with fedora.
 
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Old 12-30-2013, 10:19 AM   #21
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Fedora\RH has always seemed set for a hand full of things i.e: school and work for that maybe the OP is right to consider it but my vote is in on the more Debian way, just glad I don't have to pay for it looks expensive.
 
Old 12-30-2013, 12:19 PM   #22
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I ran Debian for a little over a year and liked it!

It was incredibly solid and every update was a success.

I just wasn't able to fix my internet connection once I installed a new NIC but thats Off Topic-
 
Old 01-01-2014, 10:00 PM   #23
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I ran Debian for a little over a year and liked it!

It was incredibly solid and every update was a success.

I just wasn't able to fix my internet connection once I installed a new NIC but thats Off Topic-
What kind of Nic was it and how did the error occur?
Usually you just install it and it works fine.
 
Old 01-02-2014, 11:53 AM   #24
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What kind of Nic was it and how did the error occur?
Usually you just install it and it works fine.
It was a:
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$ lspci | grep -i network
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
Installed it brand new. After putting the door back onto the side of the tower and started up the desktop Debian just would not go online at all-
Still don't know why the internet connection failed- Even installed wireless-tools:-
 
Old 01-02-2014, 12:06 PM   #25
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It was a:
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$ lspci | grep -i network
02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)
Installed it brand new. After putting the door back onto the side of the tower and started up the desktop Debian just would not go online at all-
Still don't know why the internet connection failed- Even installed wireless-tools:-
what was the output of "ifconfig ethx"?
 
Old 01-02-2014, 01:15 PM   #26
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what was the output of "ifconfig ethx"?
Don't know that was 6 months ago- Sorry
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:35 AM   #27
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Certificates- there used to be an Ubuntu cert that one would be eligible to be examined on only after getting LPIC-1. But that cert is gone now, assuming because of very weak interest. But seriously, do you think enterprise relies on certs when choosing OS for their big iron?!
Cannonical has much better documentation, superior to one Red Hat offers. Though development cycle is short, changes introduced are much more predictable than one RH does with its iterations. And as for using end- users as beta testers, Red Hat isn't much better in that retrospect- Fedora anybody?
If I was the enterprise and had to choose between these two, I'd choose Ubuntu with tech support from Canonical. If I was to choose from a wider range, I'd grab Solaris. Superior to any Linux.


I'll agree on the certifacations. They're not really all that relevant. RedHat has some pretty good documentation, you just have to pay to get access to it but I'll agree that Ubuntu has an advantage in this area along with the community forums. While Fedora is used for testing, it's a completely different distro set apart from RedHat so that you know it's not for enterprise use. RedHat itself is pretty stable. Ubuntu LTS is supposed to be the stable release but I've known it to be very buggy when dealing with it. Aside from unity and issues with the desktop version, I support dedicated servers at work and I don't manage every aspect of our customers' systems but whenever a plesk upgrade needs to be done it's always ubuntu that's breaking. The reason it breaks is because of some broken package or dependency when updating all of the packages in the system. Not a distro upgrade either, meaning you couldn't update all of the packages on the system because something was unexplainably broken. You could blame it on the customer but CentOS and RHEL seem to update without any issues. Now that being said, we are using Ubuntu for a lot of our internal servers including our backup servers and they hold up pretty well. Ubuntu does have more modern software than RedHat but I personally don't think it's as stable.
 
Old 01-10-2014, 02:41 AM   #28
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You guys do know that RedHat offers paid support too right? I imagine they were doing that well before Ubuntu. Also a lot of the documentation is free but a lot of articles such as workarounds to common problems require you to log into your RedHat account.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 09:00 AM   #29
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That was the point.
 
Old 01-21-2014, 12:00 PM   #30
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LinuxGeek2305:

Have you been able to come to your decision on which distribution you would like to use for your enterprise/workplace?

Here is the Red Hat Enterprise Agreement if you have an interest.-
http://www.redhat.com/licenses/us.html
 
  


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