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Old 11-11-2004, 11:21 PM   #1
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Would SUSE be bloated to me compared to Debian?


I use debian, but I am tired of changing everything manually... So, I am wondering if I should switch to SUSE.

I am going to try it out anyways, but wanted some opinions first. I will use it for desktop/games/development etc. I tried YAST and it seemed really slow. Although suse has apt-get, so I could just use that too.

Debian boots fast, runs smooth and everything but you have to set it up manually.

Is SUSE slower than debian overall because of all the stuff they put in it. Can you make it faster? (boot speed, smoothness of running etc)

Thanks.
 
Old 11-12-2004, 12:50 AM   #2
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I have been enjoying running Suse 9.1, but yes, it is going to use more resources and depending on your PC's stats run slower.
 
Old 11-12-2004, 11:53 AM   #3
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My pc is fairly up to date. I have an Athlon XP 2000+ processor, so I don't think it should that slow.

And is it possible to take off some of the stuff that uses up all the resources? I like the programs that come with SUSE actually, but I just want to make it boot faster and run better because YAST seems slow to me.

I am not sure how fast the console version of yast is though.

EDIT: and do you miss apt-get in suse? I know there is apt-get for suse but how large is the program database? and does it have problems?

Thanks

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Old 11-12-2004, 02:12 PM   #4
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You can use System -> Runlevel Editor in YAST to halt unneeded services easily.
For tweaking the kernel, as far as I know, there is no modconf like tool in Suse. Recompiing a kernel is an option but if a module is not loaded that the system expects...
I use the ncurses YAST. It may be a little faster, but YAST is a resource hog. I did a text install to an old Pentium 80MB RAM that had been running Debian Woody text just fine. Suse would not even install in text without a swap file activated. Simple commands ran somewhat slower. Using YAST tools took minutes. I know that Debian and Slack can be installed in text and run fine on 16MB RAM.
I do not really "miss" apt-get. I use YAST for updating and adding or removing software. Apt-get ran faster but YAST has worked fine for resolving dependicies for installations of packages from CD. When I manually installed the pre-built MPlayer from the pakman site I had to fool with dependicies a bit.
I will be installing Sarge when it goes stable, alongside SUSE.
Right now I am enjoying not having to configure everything.
 
Old 11-13-2004, 02:50 PM   #5
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I think you forget dpkg-reconfigure option?am I right?Debian Gnu/Linux is knows oneof the easiest distro out there with dpkg-reconfigure option,but you're complaining about the configuring the conf files youself manually!dpkg does enough,you don't have too!if you use to switch to commercial and windoze like distro,I recomend windoze then!you don't have to configure anything!and can you tell me please what config file you have to configure manually?
 
Old 11-13-2004, 05:24 PM   #6
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I couldn't get the network working with debian and I had to configure the cdroms myself which took a lot of time. ALso, the video refresh and resolution. I never used dpkg though. Does that help set everything up easier?

I still want to use linux even if the distro is similar to windows because there are still advantages...not many viruses, stable (no bluescreens every 2 mins), less expensive, etc etc..

I think I will give debian another try. Maybe some of the problems are fixed. i would wait till stable but it will just become out of date in 5 months...

I just don't like the fact that you have to apt-get upgrade at least once a week or it breaks (mine did and tried many solutions but nothing worked)

Would Mepis be a good solution to this problem?
 
Old 11-13-2004, 06:06 PM   #7
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I agree!when you update or upgrade sid or sarge may break your system any way you can chose smart upgrade system in synaptic option.Debin Gnu/Linux developers warn about this and also about the security.as far as I know some other distros break the system when you upgrade the system such as Mandrake or Fedora.Mepis linux won't help in this matter.it will break the system when you do upgrade the system.you can use woody instead
 
Old 11-13-2004, 07:05 PM   #8
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but woody is sooo out of date.... Does slackware break? I have suse but not sure how thats going to run games and other aps.

I might try vida linux (gentoo with anaconda installer)

I'll try slackware too, hopefully debian sarge stable will be out soon

After those I might try suse.

EDIT: How well does the smart upgrade work? And which is better, unstable or testing? Debian is acutally my favorite distro out of the ones I have tried, but if the few problems (breaking packages and better hardware detection / setup) were a little better it would be easier to use.

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Old 11-14-2004, 08:22 AM   #9
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I can say that Slackware doesn't break the system when you do upgrade the system,but how about the dependencies then?many of the applications may fail to work then!as for vida linux,use Gentoo instead.installations is more difficult but you learn the linux while you are insttalling it.vida linux has anaconda installer and only one choice stage 3.btw you want an easy distro,right?then go with mandrake or suse.don't you think that it is very nice we have choice?you can try whatever distro you like.I preffer source based distro such as Gentoo,Arch etc.
 
  


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