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Old 10-21-2006, 01:38 PM   #1
AnzeT
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Which distro. provides full text mode operating?


First of all, hello everyone.
I'm quite now at the forum, so please be patient with me =).

So let's go to my problem.

At home, i have old computer (333 Mhz, 64 RAM). Previous month i installed Xubuntu on it (which is ment to be fast and specialy desinged for slow computers (modifided desktop ->> Xfce)). All went fine, till i t logged in. Computer is realy slow, despite running "good linux".

Coz i'm programming a lot (PHP, MySQL,...) i need to have a good, reliable serverm which will provide every second good response. But still i don't need some high Opteron.

So i'm thinking to get some linux distro. which have full support for installing and using it in TEXT MODE. Not GRAPHICAL MODE but TEXT MODE.

Any suggestions?

Thnx for help.
 
Old 10-21-2006, 02:07 PM   #2
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Any Linux works in text mode. Linux is just the kernel, and you decide the apps that reside on it. With 64MB of RAM you might have difficulties running an X server with any desktop environment, even XFCE, but you could try using something even more lighter like fluxbox for example. It needs a bit learning but is faster than XFCE I think..but it's good you are ok to deal with text mode too.

Usually getting a Linux into text-mode, if it's not asked during the install already, is to run
Code:
init 3
which switches to runlevel 3 which is often the text-mode multiuser runlevel (5 is the graphical one in most distributions). If 3 does not work, try 4 too. One and six are reserved (shutdown, for example), but 2-5 should be fine, usually 3, 4 and 5. Once you have found out which runlevel is a normal text-mode (say it's runlevel 3), edit your inittab:
Code:
vi /etc/inittab
locate the line that defines initdefault and switch the number on that line to 3 (or the runlevel you tested to work). Ta-daa, you won't be seeing X anymore unless you start it yourself (startx).

You can also leave X out of the installation on most systems (Ubuntu too, I think, if you use the Alternate install cd), and that does the same thing. Every Linux system I know, have heard, seen in my dreams or just visualized can and will work in text-mode for the pure fact that Unix, after which Linux was made, was and is a text-mode operating system (though you can install X on it, too). You can think X (the graphical thingie) as merely a program on Linux, which it actually is, after all.

My opinion is that console is the fastest way of using computer, and it works way better than any graphical environment, too. I myself prefer to use X only if I need to do something to my photos, deal with video material or so.

Good luck with your console learnings, and remember to check out linuxcommand.org for more information about using console!
 
Old 10-21-2006, 07:37 PM   #3
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Alot of distros come with a "server install" option, which will install the distro without X and KDE or Gnome or anyother desktop. Ubuntu does for example. You can custom configure Slackware to do the same. Gentoo comes by default without X. So you have plenty of options.
 
Old 10-29-2006, 01:16 PM   #4
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Slackware comes with X but boots to text mode by default. That and gentoo are the only two distros that I've encountered recently that still do that actually.
 
Old 10-29-2006, 02:31 PM   #5
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slackware uses text by default and gives you the opertunity to try wm's like black box that give a huge speed increase even over xfce so you could use slack and try one of those. Enlightenments meant to be good but i got libary errors during compile
 
Old 10-29-2006, 03:15 PM   #6
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I'd suggest Slackware with Fluxbox. That worked on my crappy laptop when Xubuntu was unbearably slow. But plain text-mode Slackware with framebuffer is also sufficient for programming.
 
Old 10-30-2006, 01:23 AM   #7
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Slackware

Okey, i made a decision. i'm going to install Slackware.
The latest version is 11.0. I'm going to download by torrents, but i don't know which CD i need to download?
My old crappy computer doesn't support DVD, only CD.
So can anyone suggest me which ISO images do i need?
I'm going to have a server, in text-mode, so i need some packages of Apache, PHP, Perl, MySQL, etc. (Server Scripting programms, more then note).
 
Old 10-30-2006, 08:53 AM   #8
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Unfortunately I haven't received my official CDs yet, so I've installed from a downloaded DVD, which contains no information about how the CDs are organised.

To be on the safe side, download CDs 1 to 2. You could even try with just CD 1, if you don't mind to try again in case that was not enough. For kernel 2.6 (which is on CD 3) or sources (on CDs 4-6), as well as some extra stuff, you can always download the specific files later on.

For all Slackware-specific questions, please visit the Slackware forum here on LQ.

And maybe you'll fall for Fluxbox later on ;-)
 
Old 10-30-2006, 09:06 AM   #9
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If I remember correctly, you'll only need the first CD if you're not planning on installing KDE.
 
Old 11-01-2006, 10:18 AM   #10
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Correct, you just need to download cd1 if you only want to use text mode but it's a good idea to download all 3 discs if you can afford to (The other three are sources, you probably won't need them), it's good to have them in case.

The other thing is, I recommend downloading from the "current" directory rather than the 11.0 release one, as the current tends to have some bugs that crept in corrected (if there are andy) and may have more up-to-date versions of packages. Once again if you're just using text mode it shouldn't make a difference, but it's useful to have just-in-case.
 
Old 11-01-2006, 02:40 PM   #11
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Slackware is a wonderful distribution, but so are the others. As long as you have said you will be at the command line, you should have enough power for most of the distributions. I rarely move beyond the command line at home, and have an assortment of underpowered though completely functional computers. If you use Centos, you can have it boot to command line, as can Suse, Debian, et al. Take a look at /etc/inittab. It will list the default run level. If you are on Debian, or one of its derivatives, set the default run level to 2. You will boot to the command line. On Redhat, Suse, Centos type machines, set it to 3. You will be surprised at the amount of work you can accomplish.
 
  


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