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Old 03-24-2005, 09:40 PM   #1
stteng
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what linux distribution should I use to setup an Apache web server


Hi! How are you doing? I hope that you are having a stress-free day.

I am a LINUX newbie. I have some UNIX exposure from college and work.

I want to setup an Apache web server running on a GOOD ROBUST LINUX distribution!!

I haven't opened them up yet but I think I have Red Hat Fedora/Enterprise LINUX 3, Novell's LINUX Technical Resource KIT (SUSE LINUX Enterprise Server 9, SuSe LINUX Professional 8.2, etc), and older LINUX distributions.

Which Linux distribution should I use?
Are there any good Linux forums, newsletters, and websites that I can use including this one?
How do I get tech support for my different Linux distributions?

ANY help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Shane
 
Old 03-24-2005, 10:05 PM   #2
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I think apache is available for all distros. You can purchase support if you want.

Perhaps these links will help you in making your decision.

Preparing to install Linux:
# Choosing a Linux Distribution:
Will your hardware work?
Do you have good RAM? Memtest86 - A Stand-alone Memory Diagnostic
A Beginner's Guide to Choosing a Linux Distribution
Reasons to Choose or Not Choose Linux
LWN distro list
elinux Linux Distributions
# Freeware tools for partitioning/resizing hard drive partitions:
Any Linux Live CD usually have fdisk, cfdisk and other tools available
Ranish Partition Manager
# Understanding Linux Filesystem layout:
Directory Navigation Help File
Filesystems, Directories, and Devices Help File
Proper Filesystem Layout
Advanced filesystem implementor's guide (requires registration)

Do I buy a boxed source, download off the internet or buy some cheap CDs?
It's your choice! If you download, I suggest that you check the md5sums on the Linux ISO Images and make sure you know how to burn ISOs in Windows to install Linux
# Cheap CDs
Discount Linux CDs
Linux Central
Cheapbytes
TuxCDs
ComputerHelperGuy
CheapISO
Os Heaven
 
Old 03-24-2005, 10:14 PM   #3
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Thanks

I will check these websites out.

I was just hoping to get some real-world experience not some manufacturers' hype.

Please respond to this thread so I can make an informed decision.

Thanks
Shane
 
Old 03-25-2005, 01:49 PM   #4
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Personally, I would go with Debian. You wanted "a GOOD ROBUST LINUX distribution" - Debian is the one IMHO.

DON'T expect all the latest cutting edge versions of packages (unless using the unstable branch), but DO expect very solid proven packages. You will find the 'apt-get' package installer very useful, everything done the Debian way is very standardized (where packages are installed etc) and a basic server install (no gui etc) is relatively easy to achieve.

There are three (main) flavours of Debian;

Stable - currently named Woody
Testing - currently named Sarge
Unstable - currently named Sid

The Sarge release will soon be moving to Stable. The Stable and Testing releases are rigourasly monitored for security issues, and if you join the Debian Security mailing list, you will have an email in your inbox as soon as a security hole has appeared, the at the command line you just need to do a 'apt-get update' the 'apt-get upgrade' - thats it, you are patched...

As you might have gathered, I am a Debian advocate, but only for good reasons. At work we run 8 (Debian Woody) servers, running a whole host of services (LDAP. IMAP, SLAPD, HTTPS, HTTP...) and they have never let us down. At home I run Debian Sid on my laptop and Desktop, it has proved very stable and does have the cutting edge new packages...

Steve

EDIT :- If yo do want newer packageswhich don't exist in the stable branch, install from source...

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Old 03-25-2005, 06:32 PM   #5
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Thanks

Which Linux distribution is Debian?

So what about the other ones that I said that I had?

Anyone else with some suggestions?

Please answer these questions at your convenience
Shane
 
Old 03-25-2005, 07:06 PM   #6
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Uh... Debian is, well, is Debian, the distribution.

# Debian links
Installing Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 For Intel x86
The Very Verbose Debian 3.0 Installation Walkthrough
APT HOWTO
Debian Package Management HOWTO Version 1.1

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Old 03-26-2005, 10:13 AM   #7
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Debian is the Linux distribution, just as red hat or Suse are a Linux distribution.

Try having a look at this article which describes how a survey found that all of the most popular distribution were all based around debian...

http://www.linux-mag.com/content/view/45/2201/

Also, to help advise you on the best distro, it would be helpful to know what you was wanting to use it for, i.e.;

A testing server on a desktop?
A production server in a rack?
A laptop, which you want to occasionally run apache for whatever reason?
Is robust and secure the biggest priority?
Do you want to run X (the graphical environment)?

Steve
 
Old 03-26-2005, 02:39 PM   #8
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Moved: This thread is more suitable in Linux-Distributions and has been moved accordingly to help your thread/question get the exposure it deserves.

Distribution choice is usually just a matter of personal preference. That's why it's very important to know which distros you have experience with. If none, RedHat may be a good choice, but if you have SuSE Professional, it's very good, too.

The software you're going to install is very standard, so the whole process was covered many times on this forum (or any other). If you have a problem, just search for a similar one and you'll probably find a number of threads with solutions. So support in this case is not a hard thing to get.
 
Old 04-02-2005, 10:10 PM   #9
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question to Mara

Thanks for answering my questions and moving my posting.

Can you please answer these questions:

What is the difference between an evaluation copy and a full version and is the eval copy like shareware?
Which Linux Distro is good & robust?
Which Linux Distro is easier to setup but is not watered down?
How do I use LQ's ISO web page and Win XP Pro & Nero v.6 to burn Linux ISOs for a Linux Distro?
Then how do I set the Linux Distro up assuming I am a Linux newbie?

Thanks
Shane
 
Old 04-03-2005, 12:23 PM   #10
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Re: question to Mara

Quote:
Originally posted by stteng
What is the difference between an evaluation copy and a full version and is the eval copy like shareware?
In Linux there's no such thing as shareware (well, it can happen, but it's really, really rare). The difference is different from one program to another - there's no law or custom that says that (for example) evel copy doesn't have printing. You need to read the docs, it's usually written somewhere.

Quote:
Which Linux Distro is good & robust?
Which Linux Distro is easier to setup but is not watered down?
That's how flamewars start... There are more than 300 Linux distros currently. Every one has its place. It's exteremaly hard to tell you which one is good for you without knowing you well. I understand you're new in the Linux world. That's why it's a good idea to start with a distribution that's popular (good support and it probably also means it's rather good for many tastes). You can try Redhat. It can do many things automaticaly, but you can also configure it. Debian may be a bit too hard for the beginning.

Not important which distro you'll choose, remember that there are many more, so you can check another.

Quote:
How do I use LQ's ISO web page and Win XP Pro & Nero v.6 to burn Linux ISOs for a Linux Distro?
You download the ISOs, open Nero and use 'Open as ISO...' option to open each of the ISO files, then you burn them one by one. That's what I've read at the forums. I don't use Windows
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Then how do I set the Linux Distro up assuming I am a Linux newbie?
Big part of the setup will be done during install. After first boot you need to configure the applications you want to have. All the general settings are usually done and working. Depending on the distro, you have control panels that make it rather easy or text configuration files, usually with long comments describing every option.
 
Old 04-03-2005, 07:04 PM   #11
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Thanks

Thanks for all your replies!

I think I will just try to use Red Hat Fedora Core 1 for now since I have its full distribution on three CD-ROMS and I have the Red Hat Linux Bible too. I also know someone who is running Apache on it I think so I can talk to him if needed.

I will keep all my Linux distributions and books together so I know where they are. Maybe I will upgrade (possibly Fedora Core 3?) or choose a better Linux distribution (CentOS 4.0 or Debian?) later.

So far this forum has been quite useful. I will use Google and Linux forums plus any complimentary technical support if possible.

I will be looking at the Fedora posting more since my posting was moved me there. I probably will be occasionally checking this posting out but ONLY occasionally.

Shane
 
  


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