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tin 05-17-2010 08:18 PM

Want to install Debian and Slackware and keep my Windows (multiboot)
 
Hi, new here.

I use Windows XP (sorry about that) but I've used Linux before (specifically I used Ubuntu for some time).

I want to install on my machine Debian as I tried it (on Live CD) and liked it.

However there is a chance I will also want to install Slackware in the future as I have heard many good things about it. I( would like to install it and try it as I can't find it on Live CD. I have tried Slax, which I think it's similar, right?

So would I be able to install Slackware after installing Debian on my machine while keeping my Windows?

Or would it be better to first install Slackware and then install Debian?

Thanks.

linus72 05-17-2010 09:07 PM

Welcome to LQ tin!

Those are good choices for distro's

OK
there are a few debian and slackware livecd's that are installable.

pureos is debian squeeze
sidux is debian sid
nflux is my debian squeeze
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Syste...86-56368.shtml

as for slackware
I have a installable slackware current livecd/usb
nflux slackware
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml

and theres salixos, linvo, and slax remix 06
http://www.slax.org/forum.php?action...parentID=60839

so, say if you installed any slackware and most other distros first
then instyalled a debian with grub2 like mine
it will auto recognize both windows and other distros
so, install any distro, then debian, auto matic setup

need help holler back

mazinoz 05-17-2010 09:10 PM

I haven't done the exercise, but I know SuSE and Debian recognise earlier installed operating systems. I would imagine most linux distros would. Why not just try it?

brianL 05-18-2010 08:37 AM

I had XP, Slackware, and Debian (in that order), on my laptop once. I installed Slack's lilo to the MBR, and Debian's grub to its root partition, and chainloaded it from lilo. If you wanted Debian before Slack, you could do the same from Debian's grub. There's loads of info on multibooting here:
http://www.justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=144294

tin 05-18-2010 01:03 PM

Thanks for all responses

Quote:

Originally Posted by brianL (Post 3972706)
I installed Slack's lilo to the MBR, and Debian's grub to its root partition, and chainloaded it from lilo.

This seems quite helpful, if only I could understand it. I don't know what MBR, root partition, chainloading, and lilo are. I don't know many things yet regarding Linux and computers, but I'm slowly trying to learn. When I installed Ubuntu before, it was from a live CD and was done automatically, with Grub2 recognising my Windows and my hard drive and letting me partition the disk to leave a proportion to Ubuntu. That was easy.

Quote:

there are a few debian and slackware livecd's that are installable.
Would this mean I can install Slackware in the same way I did for Ubuntu? You say you have an installable slackware live CD. Where could I find this?

tin 05-18-2010 01:06 PM

linus72, sorry, just saw your iso download. I'm downloading now. Do you think I'd be able to install without much trouble if I don't know so much about these things?

tin 05-18-2010 01:09 PM

BrianL, I never trust anyone with the initials H.C.! =:-D

brianL 05-18-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tin (Post 3972989)
BrianL, I never trust anyone with the initials H.C.! =:-D

Ah, you've read Illuminatus!, eh? :)
The MBR (Master Boot Record) is usually where distros install the bootloader, unless you specify the root partition, which is where your distro is actually installed, then the bootloader goes into the /boot directory. GRUB (GRand Unified Bootloader) and lilo (linux loader) are the two loaders mostly used in linux.

linus72 05-18-2010 02:59 PM

hey tin
my newest slack livecd is uploading now
it should be done...yeah it is

now, I dont have a ubuntu-like gui installer
so you have 2 options

1) use my nFlxu-installer script; a terminal driven script that will install the livecd and install lilo by default
to boot slack only, or to dual-boot linux and windows

2) do the manual-install method, which is just a manual way to run script

remember, my slack live is like slax, same boot parameters,etc
persistent cd/usb, etc

so, do you wanna try my slack live?

tin 05-18-2010 04:33 PM

Hi

I'm already downloading n-Flux-Slackware-current-i686-rc3.iso.

Is this the one you're talking about?

To be honest I don't understand the things you say here (though they sound interesting). Being that I don't know so many things I would guess that the first option is more appropriate. However I would like to be referred somewhere were I can see step-by-step methods (that even an idiot could understand).

Also what do you mean exactly when you say that your slack live is like Slax? (don't know what are boot parameters, persistent cd/usb, etc).

Please excuse my ignorance.

Also would your distro be easier to install than the one found here ftp://ftp.slackware.org.uk/slackware...ware-13.0-iso/?

Also what is the difference between yours and Slax?

Thanks

linus72 05-18-2010 04:37 PM

hey tin, the new nflux slack I just posted
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post3973182

1)
I made nflux slack with linux live scripts; which is how slax is made

2)
mine can be installed perm to hdd using nflux-installer or manually

3)
the installer is similar to the slackware version, but the slack version has better lilo setup
however, I also include both lilo and grub1 and have a optional grub2 module in this one

4) differences between mine and slax are
slax is 12.2 based, uses KDE
mine is slackware current, uses fluxbox

tin 05-18-2010 04:51 PM

Yes I want to try your slack distro.

I prefer to use the nflux-installer if I am to install it because it sounds easier to me. Can you show me a manual of how to do this (step-by-step)?

linus72 05-18-2010 04:59 PM

I included the "info" and a "manual-install" small how-to
its in /usr/doc folder along with slackbook 2.0, which I also have as a bookmark in firefox
when.if you boot up in "text" mode, you will see a info thing like in this post
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ml#post3964873

however; I dont wanna be responsible for messing up your PC
so, back up windows, etc before doing anything
also, there are no "users" in the slack version
only root/admin

you sshould use Gparted from menu to partition with
you need 1 ext3 partition for nflux + a swap partition 2xRAM size;
so, if you have 1GB swap, you make a 2GB swap partition

you need at least 3.2GB to install nflux, but 10+gb would be best

make sure you read the info and manual install info first

heres "info" and "manual-install" from /usr/doc
http://multidistro.com/distros/tmp/info

http://multidistro.com/distros/tmp/manual-install

tin 05-18-2010 05:06 PM

Thanks

It will take me a few days to understand all this and then I'll try it.

I might return here for question(s).

Take care.


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