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even if we would "excuse your faults", there's still the fact that you have no idea what you are doing... i mean just look at the questions you are asking in post #1 of this thread... or some of the comments you make in the other thread... no offense, but why would anyone want to use a distro made by someone that is clueless?? personally i prefer to use a distro put together by someone that not only has great skills but is also talented...
if you want to help the community i think your best bet is to do some bug reporting for some projects... and after you've gotten more experience with gnu/linux you can start thinking about customizing one of the big distros... and after you've got experience with that you can go ahead and try LFS...
I may shock you but I am not clueless, but that's another point.
But you are right, I have to learn more about gnu/linux, because it is a HUGE project (and I am willing to use a simpler kernel too).
I am currently downloading all distros sources that you cited and will study them.
I am already reading LFS too .
So I have still some work to do, I was just in a hurry to have a distro working, but I guess it will not be that fast and easy...
Anyway I am motived .
Thanks for the help win32sux .
sounds like debian "The Universal Operating System".
didn't work for them either, even though they've done quite the impressive job attempting it.
nobody will care about your distro unless you have some very good ideas, from what I've seen of your ideas so far.. I doubt that you'll be able to pull it off in the near future.. feel free to try though.
DaWallace :
who cares about peoples opinion ? If Linus had listened to people like you, he would have never finish his kernel.
And your message doesnt bring any element to help for building the distro....
I have asked many questions, so if you have answers, feel free to answer.
Last edited by programmershous; 06-23-2005 at 05:14 PM.
Originally posted by programmershous DaWallace :
who cares about peoples opinion ? If Linus had listened to people like you, he would have never finish his kernel.
And your message doesnt bring any element to help for building the distro....
I have asked many questions, so if you have answers, feel free to answer.
Linus was and is a nice guy, not a jerk. He also knew what he was doing. Maybe that's why people are willing to work with him.
With your crappy attitude towards people you aren't likely to get much help. You've placed your foot firmly in your mouth and offended a lot of people with your attitide so I doubt you're going to get much help. Most people tend to help people they like, not people they see as jerks with a poor attitude.
Good luck with your project, from what I've seen from your posts you're going to need it.
masonm Linus was and is a nice guy, not a jerk. He also knew what he was doing. Maybe that's why people are willing to work with him.
With your crappy attitude towards people you aren't likely to get much help. You've placed your foot firmly in your mouth and offended a lot of people with your attitide so I doubt you're going to get much help. Most people tend to help people they like, not people they see as jerks with a poor attitude.
Good luck with your project, from what I've seen from your posts you're going to need it.
masonm :
just expressing my point of view doesnt make me a jerk. And if people dont agree with me, then we dont have to agree on everything.
If you call it a poor attitude, then you are wrong and are against freedom of speech. You would be glad if everybody thought like you and agreed with you. It is not the case.
And Linus really wouldnt appreciate arrogant people like you and would certainly not have worked with you masonm.
I REALLY dont any need help from arrogant people like you who think they are better and know better and blabla bla etc.
Oh I see you use *slackware*, so you are a *guru*, you think you are the best ? LOL
Is it you who wrote :
Quote:
You're right that Slack isn't geared toward either newbies or stupid people.
or
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Linux isn't for everyone.
LOL oh !
I also dont like the arrogant position of people like you who dont give a damn about newbies, about users in general. Especially slackware users who say, oh slackware is for *intelligent people*. Such a crap. So really you can keep your old and crappy slackware and kiss it a thousand times.
And finally, I am going to disappoint you but I have the programming skills to do it alone too if noone else helps .
Last edited by programmershous; 06-23-2005 at 06:58 PM.
Originally posted by programmershous DaWallace :
who cares about peoples opinion ? If Linus had listened to people like you, he would have never finish his kernel.
And your message doesnt bring any element to help for building the distro....
well.. the point of distribution is to have someone use it, and to do this they have to notice. you have to do something that other people find desirable.. so far, you don't have it. your goals and criteria for your project conflict.
since when did I say anything negative about the idea of making a distro? I question your ability to do it only because you have the shiftiest opinions I have ever seen.
and for the record.. linus has ensured that his kernel will not be finished for many years to come.
go ahead with your programming ability, the task you speak of requires more than that, and if you had it you wouldn't have offended so many of us.
you're just as arrogant as you say anyone else is.
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Originally posted by programmershous just expressing my point of view doesnt make me a jerk. And if people dont agree with me, then we dont have to agree on everything.
If you call it a poor attitude, then you are wrong and are against freedom of speech. You would be glad if everybody thought like you and agreed with you. It is not the case.
funny that you believe so firmly in this yet you get so offended when people express their opinions about you and your ideas.
Originally posted by programmershous
-kernel : linux or hurd or even simpler ?
I think that you should go with hurd, then you
can get the people on http://www.hurdquestions.org
to do the thinking and work for you and leave the guys
here alone ;)
It looks like a good idea at first sight, "to build a single, world-wide Linux standard that customers and partners could work with for world-class, enterprise deployment of Linux". But when I see "The SCO Group", then forget it...
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Tinkster I think that you should go with hurd, then you can get the people on http://www.hurdquestions.org to do the thinking and work for you and leave the guys here alone
Very funny http://www.hurdquestions.org doesnt exist . But yours since 5 years .
Hurd is still not finished, it has many bugs, and doesnt work entirely. So using it can be very hard.
I am not asking to do the thinking and work for me, are you joking ?
I am just trying to have people's opinion to know what people prefer... It is better than imposing my ideas.
And also some little help is always welcomed because starting from scratch is hard, especially when one has never done any distro like me.
And I like LQ because it has varied people and varied ideas . There are good discussions here .
Last edited by programmershous; 06-24-2005 at 07:10 AM.
It looks like a good idea at first sight, "to build a single, world-wide Linux standard that customers and partners could work with for world-class, enterprise deployment of Linux". But when I see "The SCO Group", then forget it...
Note the date of 2002. Several large companies thought it would be a good idea to back a standardized version of Linux. Though there was an actual release, there was no avalanche of users switching to that distribution.
I don't believe it is currently maintained.
Note also your quick dismissal of their work and consider the rationale behind choosing a distribution as opposed to the work that went into it.
2damncommon :
I quick dismissed it because there is sco in it. Anyway, as I already wrote you : I find the idea good, I am reading the pdfs.
But :
-what is the licence ? GPL ?
-where is the code source ?
-Is the product free ?
And they also write :
"we've shapped the future of enterprise OS software"
"a next generation enterprise-class Linux operating system"
"industry leaders conectiva, sco group, suse and turbolinux"
They must be joking ?
· (Dis)united Linux
In a commercial maneuver - to reduce the development costs - SCO, Conectiva, SuSE and Turbolinux formed a consortium called UnitedLinux, a joint server operating system for enterprise deployment. The software and hardware vendors can concentrate on one major business distribution, instead of certifying to multiple distributions. This is expected to increase the availability of new technologies to Linux customers, and reduce the time needed for the development of drivers and interfaces. Consulting companies can also concentrate the efforts to provide more and new services.
However, Red hat - the dominant seller in the enterprise market segment - has not been invited to join the UnitedLinux family before its announcement. Few expect it to join now. Also missing are MandrakeSoft and Sun Microsystems .elected for enterprise usage.
And they also write :
"we've shapped the future of enterprise OS software"
"a next generation enterprise-class Linux operating system"
"industry leaders conectiva, sco group, suse and turbolinux"
They must be joking ?
Why do you think it is a joke? Remember, this was happening 3 or so years ago. The face of linux and the players were a little different then it is now.
Ok then sorry, I was not born yet 3 years ago .
No seriously, big players were Red hat, MandrakeSoft, Sun etc. Things dont change that fast, even for linux.
By the way, I received no help for the new distro, so I am thinking to give it up and to continue reading and learning (except if I get some more help)...I am sorry for all my supporters .
Last edited by programmershous; 06-24-2005 at 03:57 PM.
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