[SOLVED] Thanks for all the help, my quest is finished

keitihashimero · 11-05-2009, 12:56 PM

Thanks for all the help LQ Forum members. You've all been great. I've decided to stick with the debian V 5 on the laptop. And try new distros as leisure with the info, from the replies, I've recieved.
Thanks.

EricTRA · 11-05-2009, 01:04 PM

Hello,

I've been a dedicated Debian user on servers for quite some time now. Some time ago I started using Linux desktop distros. I too had Debian, Ubuntu, DreamLinux, .... and ended up with Slackware 13.0 at this moment. I'm glad to say I feel good with this, in my opinion great, distro. So if you're not too green behind the ears, I'd say try it out, I'm sure you'll like it too.

Kind regards,

Eric

ammorais · 11-05-2009, 01:05 PM

I'm sure everyone here will tell you that there is no best distro. There are distros that are more suitable to your needs and technical skills. Why don't you tell us what are you looking for in a distro so we can be able to help you.

pixellany · 11-05-2009, 01:19 PM

http://distrowatch.com

The best distro (for you) is often the last one you try.

cantab · 11-06-2009, 08:31 AM

The best distribution depends on what you want out of it.

Try this for some advice,

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

or else post what you want your Operating System to do here.

Oh, and Solaris isn't Linux at all - though it's similar.

keitihashimero · 11-06-2009, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ammorais

I'm sure everyone here will tell you that there is no best distro. There are distros that are more suitable to your needs and technical skills. Why don't you tell us what are you looking for in a distro so we can be able to help you.

I'm looking for a Distro, that will not be difficult to learn, that recognizes my wireless adapter on my Laptop, and be able to select from Wireless access points, not just the first one they see I want to be able to select from a list.
Tahts just the beginning, and I am a new User of Linux, and want to learn the program.

ammorais · 11-06-2009, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitihashimero

I'm looking for a Distro, that will not be difficult to learn, that recognizes my wireless adapter on my Laptop, and be able to select from Wireless access points, not just the first one they see I want to be able to select from a list.
Tahts just the beginning, and I am a new User of Linux, and want to learn the program.

I recommend to you Ubuntu or Fedora.
Both configure automatically your wireless card. And both have by default a wireless search gui tool.

They are both easy to learn.

If you intend in the future after learning a little more to play with the console and the configuration files, I recomend Fedora since it's more simple and more close to the rest of Linux(Ubuntu relies on many automations so the config files are often complicated to edit manually. One example is grub.conf on 9.10).

On the other hand you are already familiarized with Debian, so Ubuntu will be a smart choice since it's a Debian's derivate.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantab

The best distribution depends on what you want out of it.

Try this for some advice,

http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/

or else post what you want your Operating System to do here.

Oh, and Solaris isn't Linux at all - though it's similar.

Why don't fallow this advice also, and see for yourself.

cantab · 11-07-2009, 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keitihashimero

I'm looking for a Distro, that will not be difficult to learn, that recognizes my wireless adapter on my Laptop, and be able to select from Wireless access points, not just the first one they see I want to be able to select from a list.
Tahts just the beginning, and I am a new User of Linux, and want to learn the program.

If your Wireless card is supported by Linux, Ubuntu does that just fine. If your wireless card is NOT supported by Linux, you're likely to have trouble whatever distro you use. (ndsiwrapper is supposed to let you use the Windows drivers, but to my knowledge it's not easy to get it working)

linus72 · 11-07-2009, 08:57 AM

Roll your own via Remastersys, live-magic, etc

Or install Many and try them all!

You can put frugal distro's(usb distro's)
inside your existing ubuntu/debian/slack,etc partitions
and run them as persistent.

like say you got Ubuntu-9.04 installed to hda2
and you wanna test out like
Moolux
Debian-Live
any Puppy Linux

just extract the iso(s)
to a folder, copy the folders you need into the top of your
ubuntu parttion, and edit your grub menu.lst

like heres my cluttered/needs to be edited menu.lst for my PC

Code:

title Plop Bootmanager HDA 8
root (hd0,7)
kernel /boot/plpbt.bin

######## START
#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
#########################HDA3
title Phalanx-9.04
root (hd0,2)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
###########################
#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
######################### HDA-4
title Watchman LXDE
root (hd0,3)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst
######################### HDA-6

title		Ultimate-2.2
root (hd0,5)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst

title            LighthousePup
root             (hd0,5)
kernel           /LPup/vmlinuz acpi=force root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=atahd initrd=/LPup/initrd.gz psubdir=LPup max_loop=40
initrd           /LPup/initrd.gz

title DarkMagic-4.5
root (hd0,5)
configfile /boot/grub/pmagic45-menu.lst

title Alchemist
root (hd0,5)
kernel /alchem/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap persistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /alchem/initrd.gz

title Canabix-HASHBOX-v4.22 (AfterEffects)
root (hd0,5)
kernel /test/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap persistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /test/initrd.gz

title GRML-Magix
root (hd0,5)
configfile /magix/grml-menu.lst


title            BrowserLinux-353 aka HellPup
root             (hd0,5)
kernel           /bpup0909/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=atahd initrd=/bpup0909/initrd.gz psubdir=bpup0909
initrd           /bpup0909/initrd.gz

title CanaSmall
root (hd0,5)
  kernel /canasmall/vmlinuz noprompt noeject persistent file=/preseed/custom.seed boot=live initrd=/canasmall/initrd.gz quiet splash vga=791
  initrd /canasmall/initrd.gz

title            PAW_RC-2
root             (hd0,5)
kernel           /PAW/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 pmedia=atahd initrd=/PAW/initrd.gz psubdir=PAW
initrd           /PAW/initrd.gz

######################## HDA-6
#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
######################## HDA-7

title SalixOS
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz quiet root=/dev/hda7 vt.default_utf8=1 ro vga = 788
save default
boot

title MooLux
root (hd0,6)
kernel /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 vga=791 autoexec=xconf;kdm

title MooLux-Fresh
root (hd0,6)
kernel /MooLux/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 rw ramdisk_size=7777 vga=791 autoexec=xconf;kdm
initrd /MooLux/initrd.gz
boot

title PWL-Full-beta
root (hd0,6)
kernel /DVD/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap nopersistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /DVD/initrd.gz

title PWL-BIG
root (hd0,6)
kernel /pwlbig/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap persistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /pwlbig/initrd.gz

title Canabix-LXDE-4.19
root (hd0,6)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst


title PocketWriter
root (hd0,6)
kernel /pwl/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap persistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /pwl/initrd.gz

#########################
#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
######################## HDA-8

title		Ultimate-2.3
root (hd0,7)
uuid		b88c3673-8438-416b-a502-742e1a8abf3d
kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-16-generic root=UUID=b88c3673-8438-416b-a502-742e1a8abf3d ro quiet splash 
initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-16-generic
quiet

title		Ultimate-2.3 (recovery mode)
root (hd0,7)
uuid		b88c3673-8438-416b-a502-742e1a8abf3d
kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.28-16-generic root=UUID=b88c3673-8438-416b-a502-742e1a8abf3d ro  single
initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.28-16-generic

title Trooper
root (hd0,7)
kernel /trooper/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap toram=trooper.squashfs nopersistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /trooper/initrd.gz

title Canabix-HASHBOX-v4.20 (
root (hd0,7)
kernel /HashBox420/linux26 apm=power-off lang=us vga=791 quiet boot=live nomce nolvm noswraid swap toram=HashBox-v4.20.squashfs persistent noautoconfig noprompt noeject
initrd /HashBox420/initrd.gz

title DarkMagic-4.4
root (hd0,7)
configfile /boot/grub/pmagic-menu.lst

############################
#$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
######################### HDA-9
title 503box-Live
root (hd0,8)
configfile /boot/grub/menu.lst

Alexvader · 11-07-2009, 01:45 PM

Hi Keitihashimero

A Distro is like a work tool... it is only as good as you can master it... :-)

Of course there are other issues, like learning curve/working efficiency trade-off, "coolness" factor/vs "user friendship"... etc...

A Few objective facts... : Some distro developers blindly assume that the end user is mentally incapacitated, some others do not...

For instance try to install k3b in Debian Lenny Gnome... apt-get will drag thousands of kde apps into your applications panel, which you did not call for... it is bad... but somebody "decided" that you were not intelligent enough to sort out what does k3b need to work properly, and believe me... if you kick all those unneeded kde apps away, k3b will still work...
there are some strange things in the world... :-(

...Type pstree in a user shell in your Debian lenny... man... it can really piss someone off... :-(

But Debian is still a ROCK STABLE distribution, and a RELIABLE one... I use it... :-)

On the other way... some distro developpers assume that you are Linus Torvalds unknown brother.... :-)

They are what can be called "n00b-Killer" distros...

Slackware, Arch-Linux, Crux-Linux, and BLFS and FreeBSD ( this is not Linux... it is Unix... )
(from the most friendly to the least friendly... )

I also use Slackware and I LIKE IT... :-)

what do you gain...?

Speed of execution, stability, high performance, etc...

What do you "lose"...?

The time it takes you to "master the system", instead of letting the "system master you"... Lolll

Compare learning to shoot with a pistol, with learning Kenjutsu... You can become a proficient shooter in one year of intensive training... but believe me... you won't become a proficient swordsman in 10 years of intensive training, at least not in the degree of profficiency of the shooter with one year training, ...nobody will call you Myamoto Musashi, if you get my point :-D

... but then again... the "CF" ( coolness factor, for ppl that care for it... :-) ) of the katana is much bigger than that of the pistol... :-) ( my opinion here... :-) )

It boils down to Taste/Learning Curve/Efficiency/Coolness factor trade-off...

BRGDS

Alex

keitihashimero · 11-08-2009, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cantab

If your Wireless card is supported by Linux, Ubuntu does that just fine. If your wireless card is NOT supported by Linux, you're likely to have trouble whatever distro you use. (ndsiwrapper is supposed to let you use the Windows drivers, but to my knowledge it's not easy to get it working)

I will try ubuntu, them thanks, loads!

keitihashimero · 11-08-2009, 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alexvader

Hi Keitihashimero

A Distro is like a work tool... it is only as good as you can master it... :-)

Of course there are other issues, like learning curve/working efficiency trade-off, "coolness" factor/vs "user friendship"... etc...

A Few objective facts... : Some distro developers blindly assume that the end user is mentally incapacitated, some others do not...

For instance try to install k3b in Debian Lenny Gnome... apt-get will drag thousands of kde apps into your applications panel, which you did not call for... it is bad... but somebody "decided" that you were not intelligent enough to sort out what does k3b need to work properly, and believe me... if you kick all those unneeded kde apps away, k3b will still work...
there are some strange things in the world... :-(

...Type pstree in a user shell in your Debian lenny... man... it can really piss someone off... :-(

But Debian is still a ROCK STABLE distribution, and a RELIABLE one... I use it... :-)

On the other way... some distro developpers assume that you are Linus Torvalds unknown brother.... :-)

They are what can be called "n00b-Killer" distros...

Slackware, Arch-Linux, Crux-Linux, and BLFS and FreeBSD ( this is not Linux... it is Unix... )
(from the most friendly to the least friendly... )

I also use Slackware and I LIKE IT... :-)

what do you gain...?

Speed of execution, stability, high performance, etc...

What do you "lose"...?

The time it takes you to "master the system", instead of letting the "system master you"... Lolll

Compare learning to shoot with a pistol, with learning Kenjutsu... You can become a proficient shooter in one year of intensive training... but believe me... you won't become a proficient swordsman in 10 years of intensive training, at least not in the degree of profficiency of the shooter with one year training, ...nobody will call you Myamoto Musashi, if you get my point :-D

... but then again... the "CF" ( coolness factor, for ppl that care for it... :-) ) of the katana is much bigger than that of the pistol... :-) ( my opinion here... :-) )

It boils down to Taste/Learning Curve/Efficiency/Coolness factor trade-off...

BRGDS

Alex

That was Totally cool, the way you replied, to my question. I will keep that in mind, including, Me mastering the Distro, not the Distro, mastering me. With loads of Cool Factor, Keiti.
Loads of thanks!

linus72 · 11-08-2009, 01:09 PM

Also, remember that Linux is mostly made up of simple text files and executable scripts
syslinux.cfg, menu.lst, xorg.conf, etc, etc

Its just text files running around executing commands..

Now, if'n you wanna try so Multidistro magic
check out my newest lineup

Phalanx-9.04 a Ubuntu-9.04 remastersys project featuring LXDE and made for writers (me)
NOTE that Phalanx-9.04 will not be ready for download till about 6PM tonight!

503box-Live a great all-around Debian 5.0.3 (Lenny) which I have modified heavily!

Both are made for usb too, and both install to hd just like ubuntu-9.04/debian lenny
you might not find anything better

http://multidistro.com/

http://multidistro.com/downloads/current/current.html

http://multidistro.com/downloads/current/read.txt

ammorais · 11-08-2009, 10:03 PM

Quote:

Phalanx-9.04 a Ubuntu-9.04 remastersys project featuring LXDE and made for writers (me)

Off topic, but Phalanx. What a great name for a Linux distro.

ronss · 11-10-2009, 05:19 AM

i agree with above thread,,this is usually some learing curve to master the distro you decided to install. the learning curve is usually tough for green horns, those that know a little, its not quite as much. the distros such as gento, slackware, i would not recommed to only those that have some ablility to work with linux, and a greenhorn would get frustrated very quickly.

i have suse 10.2,,,i know its a bit old now, but i did have it on my rig, and working fairly decently as a desktop operating system. to get the nvidia driver going, took a bit of work , as with getting my dvd player working. thats the 2 biggies for me,,,,i am far from an expert in linux, but if i decide to use one distro, i can usually get some things working , but effort is a must .