Yast2 is screwing up about everything I let it do.
XSetup,ADSL, Onlineupdates - now is it just me be stupid or does
anybody else have a lot of trouble with Yast2 either or even better
knows how to fix the @#$%^thing?

that is one reason to configure manually, never goes wrong instead of depending on the gui tools..

-trickykid

could you be a little more vague?

OK - let me elaborate.
When I install Suse there is no way I can get the monitor to work
ok with Yast. It sets the defaultscreen to 1024x768@75Hz.
My monitor cant do that. When I try to change settings to 800x600
it shows in Yast that it is at 85Hz - but it is at 45Hz.
When I doctor around with Sax (for xfree86 3.x series) or Sax2
(for xfree86 4.x series) and change the settings for the videocard
and drivers I dont get anywhere.
Have to do xf86config and then change the file manually to get
things to work ok.
Yast2 insists that I install a package called "kinternet" to get my
adsl working. Now if I do so kinternet shows me that I am not
connected as of right now. As a matter of fact according to kinternet I was never connected to the net.
What it does is that my line keeps dropping a lot more than withoutthe package installed.
It also insists that I have to install netscape in order to get mozilla working?
Last time I did a Onlineupdate with Yast2 my box locked up after
the update - it showed first that all the patches where loaded
ok from the website then it installed them and that was that.
Its not like I have some exotic setup here - its the Susestock
kernel and and default softwareinstall from Susecds.
The hardware is shitty ( mobo with everything onboard SIS )
but I didnt have a problem getting mandrake or connectiva
up and running.
Now pls. dont give me the "well if you dont like it use something
else" line.
I already got involved in a flamewar about this.
I like suse better than the other distros I had on my box but I
think they have an issue with their installer which is the original
question: Is it just me stupid thing or anybody else too?

I'm on a PIII 500MHz, with 384Mb, and have used Yast2 to install twice (I had to reinstall after attempting to upgrade my Win98 partition to XP. It was an unmitigated disaster!). I installed/uninstalled a lot of packages as I was learning what things are and where they go. It's always worked perfectly for me.

I hate to say but even the techsupport at SuSE secretly recommends that you use the Roaring Penguin software to deal with DSL connections if your provider requires a PPPoE client to connect.

I fully realize that this is a "try something else" solution but it really is easy to find and easy to configure.

You might also want to try the "Configure X" module in Yast2 for getting your resolution right. You should be able to configure and test your resolution without dealing with SaX at all.

in my opinion both SuSE & Mandrake have ruined their OSs with way too much distro specific hand-holding apps that they ruined their distros of Linux, anymore i refuse to reccomend anything else other than Redhat (for a RPM based distro) for the newbie user, and Slackware for a Linux user that is becoming familier with Linux and wants to learn more about Linux...

is that I think the idea of centralizing system control is definitely not a bad thing. Jesus, if I had to edit a .config file for every application I'd go crazy in a week. Anyway, I think that trying to integrate system control is a good idea but most of the implementations are not terrific at this point.

The problem with things like Yast2 is that once you start using them you're kind of stuck using them. Most folks recommend that you install RPMs through Yast2 instead of just plain ole -Uvh on the command line. That is a little scary especially given the fact that Yast is a proprietary piece of code.

Of course it wouldn't be a post by me if I didn't grouse about elitism a little bit. I am bothered by the whole "hand holding" criticisms a little bit. Having a front end handle your applications and whatnot is a pretty basic idea in computing. The very fact that you use an operating systems means that you are having an intermediary piece of software interpret commands for you. Get off the soapbox. No one (and I do mean no one) cares how leet you are.