Hi All,

I am a newbie and trying to get involve with linux. I was going to try the new SUSE linux 8.0 after reading around about it. As with other distros which are freely available for download, i was sort of disappointed to see that SUSE 8.0 has been release a while ago and is NOT yet available for free download (just the liveEvaluation) (u can do ftp install for 7.3 version, but not for 8.0).

While other distros become available for download almost immediately. i.e. RedHAt 7.3 is available now for download.
I don't mind paying money for the OS, but just don't like some one forcing me on that(which SUSE seems to be doin). i like Mandrake club thing; which does not force me to become member. later i am planning to try Mandrake; if i like that i definately will love to support them.

I was just wondering according to GPL, is'nt suse linux supposedly should downloadable almost immediately they release it?

Help greately appreciated.

Yea they will release the sources soon enough. But you will never see an ISO from SuSE.

I find your comment interesting about 'forcing me on that'. What exactly do you mean? You don't like to be forced to pay for a great product? I personally don't think many of these distro companies should release a full ISO version at all. There is too much of a 'I should have this for fee' attitude when it comes to complete distros.

You may be a completely honest person, but too many people leach off the work of others and never contribute back.

i agree, a distro like debian is one thing, because, for the most part it's a volunteer effort SuSE is an actual company
with employees, and light bills, and property taxes, etc. that money has to come from somewhere.

Well,
the thing which made me feel bad is that SUSE 8.0 has been available in the market for you to buy for around 15 days?. but you can not do FTP installation of SUSE 8.0 (you can do that for 7.3) as of yet, all u can do is that do LiveEval of SUSE 8.0. I think; they should release FTP installation almost immediately, and NOT release the ISOs.
I sure wanna try and see how well SUSE 8.0 works on my HardWare, and what components it supports; and what not. And then if i like it; i would love to support them by buying their product, and also makes life easier by having installtion done from CDs/DVD.
BUT only option available is spend like $70 and if it does not support some/all of ur hardware; or u have problems with it; u r stuck with it! even if ya don't like it :-)
and thats what i meant by 'forcing me to buy that piece of software' which i dont know howz gonna work?

ofcourse we are forced by M$ to buy crap like M$Window*** and that also contributes to the reason of my alltime great haterad towards M$.

I don't know; but for SUSE having this sort of attitude atleast did not win my support, but rather have sort of opposite reaction.

BTW is SUSE linux released under GPL? or is there any other licence? and if anyone know that if there is any time constraint for company to release their SourceCode/FTP Installtion ? afterall it is useless for Microsoft to release the source code of Windows 3.1 :-) so there has to be some time constraint right?

you can get suse 8 proffessional at http://amazon.com for $64. suse is a very good operating system, good sound drivers. i don,t like a lot of the desktop backgrounds that come with the latest linux operating systems, you can get some good ones at http://kde-look.org. red hat wants $199 for their professional system, too high .

I believe that suse8 worths more money...

I bought it @ £45 and with a 40 minutes installation everything was in place..

Webcam Go - Creative !
WinTV hauppage - pci
network card
modem diamond serial
G3 Ti 200 - 3D hardware enabled.
intellimouse. scrolling OK
printer - text + graphics

All the required software for office apps, cdr, browsing, image editing.

The installation configures everything....

What else do you have that you don't know if its supported ???

I will just reiterate what has been said before: Suse is a company and needs to pay its staff, the bills, and even make some profit.

Suse pay its employers to continuously develop the distribution, the linux kernel, KDE, and a host of other projects.

I recently bought Suse 8.0 and I'm very happy with it. They certainly deserve my support.