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I am new to Linux and purchased the 9.0 about 20 days ago from BestBuy. I had some problems but have since learned that .0 revs are not the best way to go.
You can get a 9.1 DVD off eBay too. I did, beats downloading 5 discs worth of ISO's.
I like it, so far it fixed the sound and video problems I had under 9. I have a Dell Dimension 4600c so everything is built in and you cannot change anything but it runs great under 9.1 I know it makes no sense but even the 2.8HT proc seems faster.
"If you can't get the image off of (linkage removed)"
Ah, slacker. Anyone else who read that from exabrial. DO NOT, download whatever images are on those sites. Suse does not distribute iso images of any sort, and this usualy leaves the iso's that people download as illegal copies of the suse disks.
/me looks at the ebay sales...
And it looks like, out of the 5 ebay auctions for Suse 9.1 that I looked at... all 5 are also just plain illegal copies of a dvd someone bought and decided to start distributing for money.
Oh well. No further mentioning of ebay or downloads from either of you. LinuxQuestions doesnt like warez being posted to their site.
**edit**
Decided to send an email off to suse and ask them to look at the ebay auctions. If they are legal copies, they'll stay. If not, someone's getting their rear end whooped big time.
I called SuSE and asked if it was illegal to purchase the DVD from eBay and thier response was that they will not support copies purchased from eBay but that it was not a voilation of any laws as long as the distribution was not modified.
So it is legal, SuSE just frowns on it as you would if you were selling somehting for 90.00 and people could buy it for 12.99. As far as the "love of secnts" auctions, that is where I got mine. If you count the cost of the DVD, Cd Stompping and shipping it is aorunf 12.99, so where does that leave it? Sounds free to me, just saves time in downloading.
I am interested in the link lumpyhed had in his post. The mods. deleted it and I would like to find iso's for suse 9.1 personal or professional. I have 9.1 live eval and it works great. Currently I have Redhat 9 on a inspiron 8600 that I bought the 2nd week of Dec. and I'm still trying to get all of my features working. Redhat 9 has major dep. issues and an old kernel. To get to the point Suse 9.1 is the only (simple) option that works (not to mention it's stability). Can someone please let me know where I can get the iso's.
P.S.
I thought that part of the open-source and GNU was that if they reworked the code the had to offer their reworked product at no cost (downloadable).
Am I wrong?
It makes it a bit hard for some of us, like myself in Australia.
Suse do not have an online shop yet on the Aus-based site, and i want to avoid all the US$ conversions and taxes etc to import it. I dont have the bandwidth to download, and i WANT to buy it from Suse because its a great distro and i would like to do the right thing and support linux.
So i'm basically left to buy stuff off ebay, even though they say they are not the downloaded versions... if anyone can think of another suggestion let me know... or if you are a certified Aussie Suse distributor...
I found a "generic" 5-disk Suse 9.1 Pro on Amazon.com for a few dollars (I'm not giving a link here, not trying to advertise, just stating a fact.)
I assume it's legal because the price is about par for burning 5 CDs, but I wonder about the proprietary programs. If Crossover Office costs something like $60 and comes in the $80 Suse 9.1 Pro package, can it also be included in a "generic" copy that's sold for the cost of the disks?
For people like me who are stuck on dialup, buying pre-burned disks is the only way to go. And I'm not totally cheap... I do pay for the official Slackware versions.
I don't know of any proprietary software on suse 9.1. There's no crossover office on my install, and yast2 tells me I can't install it from cd's. Also, I doubt Amazon would ever sell anything illegal.
Although suse won't offer iso's of their distro, they do state that copying isn't illegal. They just do not recommend it. If you google around, you find links to these declarations.
You can buy these cd's from Amazon. Just notice that you are not entitled to install support from suse.
Yet better is buying the cd's set from suse, and being Yet Another Satisfied Customer, he he he...
Originally posted by Caeda "1. if they truly want to be a desktop version- why don,t they load the nividia driver during install."
Because Nvidia legally owns the driver and can sue the ass of anyone who distributes it because its ILLEGAL.
"2. very easy to get xine dvd player running on mepis- not to sure about suse"
unless 9.1 changed suse has xine included, but it will not play dvd's. Almost the same reason as above... Because linux systems play dvd's using software that was patched together reverse engineered and cracked, its also Illegal for linux to play dvd[s even if you own them.
3. bias? More like, fully featured. Its great to have a distro that can be a server out of the box for 80$ with gui configs for practically every part of it
Very well put.
SuSe goes into great detail about the legal ramifications towards the Xine codecs, but also provides information to aquire the codecs.
It is important to understand that the current battle, lawsuits, and possible ownership of those codecs is full realized, and not blamed on ANY distro. Almost by design however, the codecs do not provide the full enjoyable experience (frame skipping..choppy..) without some tweaking on your part.
Nvidia, after a very convincing online petition propositioned with a vast amount of signatures, offered their drivers to the Linux community, however not GPL'd. Everyone of us should be kissing Nvidia's ass for doing something so bold and obviously and potentially dangerous considering Windows machines typically use Nvidia out of the box in every available port and plug.
SuSe is a server machine. Biased or not, I am glad that I can Fully utilize this OS to it's fullest extent, unlike some other distros that give you a desktop and a (sometimes) internet connection. You could not ask for a better OS for developing MYSQL and PHP on.
"I bought my crossoffice for $42.00 (tax included) and I would buy it again in a hearbeat.
You may be thinking of the professional/business version, which is something you do not need unless you are of course doing muti machines."
The cheap version I found on Amazon was the Pro version, that presumably comes with Crossover Office, etc. The Pro version comes with libraries and compilers necessary for development work. I don't have a need for Crossover Office because I have a straight Linux box, I was just wondering about the licensing issues...
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