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Old 10-07-2012, 11:17 PM   #1
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Some question about some rolling release distro to make my choice.


Hi, I do lot of programming, and thus, I always need most up-dated library. I need a distro that its always up to date with everything, while also be stable (Stable dont neccesseray mean 16 month of testing, just few week to check everything work fine).

Currently, I already have spotted some possibility(They are not classed by preference):

- OpenSUSE + tumbleweed
- Fuduntu
- Linux Mint Debian Edition
- Arch Linux
- Gentoo
- FreeBSD (I know, its not a Linux, but does the job well)
- Chakra
- Sabayon

First, like I would like to know, how much time in those distro they test software before it get in?
In other word, how much time before X new version, testing, and approved/rejected(Rejected usually mean extra testing and bugfix)?

Also, about package availability, how do they compare?

And finally, does Sabayon is simply a pre configured Gentoo, or does it have its own repo? Same for Chakra, does it use its own repo or the Arch one? [Found the answer to this, no, both use their own repo, for Sabayon case, for binary and source based, although, source based is almost the same as the Gentoo one, but each script got a little modification, so everything available on Gentoo will also be available on Sabayon]

Any advice, or other good possibility are also welcome.

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Old 10-08-2012, 04:56 AM   #2
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolling_release is an interesting read .

Archlinux normally starts testing when upstream has released a new stable version.
Packages are then made available in the testing repos, If no problems are found they tend to enter the normal repos within a week or less.

Larger changes, that require many packages to be rebuild tend to be placed in staging or an unstable repo first .
Gnome 3.2 needed a few months of testing before it was released in the official repos for example.

In short, testing time depends largely on how big the impact of the update is.
With arch, you get a few updates everyday.

Availability of packages :

Official repos ( core, extra, community, multilib) hold 11.959 packages atm .
see https://www.archlinux.de/?page=RepositoryStatistics

Then there's the Arch User Repository (AUR) that holds more then 25k packages .
Note that aur packages are not binary packages, but instead provide you with the stuff needed to build a package on
your own system, often from source.
Many arch users name AUR as a prime reason why they choose arch.

Keep in mind Archlinux is NOT like debian, ubuntu, Mint, slackware , gentoo etc.
If you consider archlinux, best advise is to check the archwiki,

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php..._Distributions is a good start to get an idea.

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Old 10-08-2012, 11:38 AM   #3
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Distrowatch gives you a list of the versions of major software for each distro's installation disk, which should enable you to get a general idea For example, checking gcc shows Arch 4.5.0, Gentoo (stable) 4.5.4, Fuduntu and Sabayon 4.6.3.

The only ones I've tried recently are
Funduntu is very stable, but the repository is small.
Sabayon has its own repository; it's very up-to-date but not always stable
Arch used to be a bit buggy, but it seems much better now.

I've never tried Gentoo: it does have the reputation of being a fight to get installed and usable, a fight that not everyone wins!
 
Old 10-08-2012, 12:12 PM   #4
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I've never tried Gentoo: it does have the reputation of being a fight to get installed and usable, a fight that not everyone wins!
Pray that a ricer doesn't read it.

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Old 10-08-2012, 12:52 PM   #5
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Highly recommend Arch if 'rolling release' is your top priority.
 
Old 10-08-2012, 02:23 PM   #6
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Distrowatch gives you a list of the versions of major software for each distro's installation disk, which should enable you to get a general idea For example, checking gcc shows Arch 4.5.0, Gentoo (stable) 4.5.4, Fuduntu and Sabayon 4.6.3.
Better check your info, Arch has gcc 4.7.1 on the latest install media.
 
  


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