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Old 01-25-2007, 06:44 PM   #16
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There is really no difference between running Debian Sid and running Sidux.

The only real difference is the support and upgrade warning you get from a community that runs Debian Sid. Especially since all of the Debian documentation only deals with Debian Stable.

Any time there are dist-upgrade problems there is a warning and a fix if there is one in the forum, and h2's d-u script will have the same warning and a fix if there is a one.

There are a few scripts like the networkcard config, and the fact that the Sidux kernels work on more hardware than vanilla Debian kernels. Plus installing nvidia/ati drivers and other drivers like wireless can be installed/configured using a cool script that has been tested.

The only other things are shame's beryl repo, and a community of knowledgeable people that run Debian Sid and know how to fix the inevitable problems that come with running unstable.

I run a Kanotix installed that has been upgraded to Sidux and a Debian Etch install that has been dist-upgrade to SId+ Sidux. There is very little difference between the two, other than the fact that my Etch install tends to freeze for no apparent reason using the default Debian kernel and my Kanotix/Sidux install has never froze in almost 2 yrs of running it.
 
Old 01-30-2007, 02:09 PM   #17
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cheers for the "backup" craigevil. Basically what I was "trying" to say (rather badly I might add).

Personally I wouldn't even try debian sid "proper". Like all pure debian installs it asks to many questions for my liking. Whereas kanotix to sidux asks very few, but the wonderous magic that is the h2 script, well I think it caused me a very tiny concern on one occassion - but it didn't screw anything up, because like you already mentioned, I bothered to read the warning that h2 included and just waited a while.

As far as I'm concerned it's "bloody marvellous" (hence my initial post - I reckon that others should give it a go, and I hadn't seen much of a mention).

regards

John
 
Old 01-30-2007, 02:33 PM   #18
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Originally posted by bigjohn:
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I reckon that others should give it a go, and I hadn't seen much of a mention).
I confess to having been converted from highly sceptical to very interested, so well sold by both yourself and craigevil.
 
Old 01-31-2007, 10:40 AM   #19
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I confess to having been converted from highly sceptical to very interested, so well sold by both yourself and craigevil.
Tell ya what mikieboy, you get good help from the forums - very friendly as craigevil said, if you fire up their IRC channel, it's even quicker. Quite a number of the developers/"glitterati" of sidux can be found there - especially in the evenings. It's brill'.

The only downside being, that theres also lots of questions asked in German, but that only reflects "their" kanotix roots i.e. kano (Jorge) is German (ha! then again, so is matey bollocks who "does" knoppix).

If I've managed to convinced one person to at least have a look, I'm happy. I was a bit dubious at first (having had kanotix running for a good few months, updated by the h2 script), but when the sidux stuff appeared in the script I just figured it was worth a look.

I'm vvv glad I did, because I'm not a "techie type" (I leave that to my older brother), I'm just a user who doesn't want to have to use windows.

regards

John
 
Old 02-01-2007, 08:02 AM   #20
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I'm just a user who doesn't want to have to use windows.
Me too!
I'd love to have a look at the live CD. Is it downloadable yet?
 
Old 02-01-2007, 09:12 AM   #21
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Wow this conversation got me very intrested, debian proper is just a little too much hasle to set up, but this looks very promising. Shame im running on powerpc other wise id be apt-geting myeslf sidux right now
 
Old 02-01-2007, 11:22 AM   #22
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Me too!
I'd love to have a look at the live CD. Is it downloadable yet?
To be honest, I don't know. I haven't checked to see whats going on for a couple of days now (work ).

I'd say, have a look - but I just checked and there seems to be a public test version available - this is the thread that I found in the news forum at the sidux forum. Theres torrents for i686 and x86_64.

Might be worth a try, but remember it's their first one. Maybe if you had a spare partition or even a hard drive, you could just install the 2006 kanotix, the "h2 script" and then run the script to update to sidux - it's very easy and straight forward (it has to be for a nugget like me to make it work ).

Or just wait a while longer. I don't know how long or how much work it is to do this, but I get the impression that "they" are keen to get one up and running.

regards

John

p.s. @ Indiestory - you'd have to ask 'em at sidux forums or on the IRC if theres any way round that.
 
Old 02-01-2007, 11:26 AM   #23
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debian proper is just a little too much hasle to set up,
...but you run Slackware?
 
  


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