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Old 08-24-2008, 12:11 PM   #1
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PcLinuxOS fails to go out on web despite saying ethernet works


PcLinuxOS fails to go out on web despite saying ethernet works

What could be going on. It deos recognize my Marwell Yukon Ethernet card
and says it has set it up and that it is a success and ask it I want to
use that connection and I say yes and ok and try to please the Live CD.

But Firefox fail to go out on internet. No google no LQ no nothing.

What could it be that fails?

But many other linux works out of the box and that is live cd too.
Vector Linux, Nimblex, Zenwalk, Linux Mint worked.

Why not Pclinuxos? Ok it share this with DSL and Knoppix and Kanotix.
Maybe they all use same script?

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Old 08-25-2008, 05:02 AM   #2
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First establish if you have a route to the big bad world:

ping 216.34.181.60 (www.sf.net)

If you don't have a route to the world, check your routing table:

route -n

If there is no default gateway, then add one:
route add default gw your.gateway.ip.address

If pin does work by IP then check name resolution:

host www.sf.net

If that fails, check your DNS entries:

cat /etc/resolv.conf

If there are no entries, you need to put some in.

In general you only have these problems if an IP is statically declared on your interface. If DHCP is used instead, the route and DNS entries are usually set during DHCP negotiations, even if you are assigned a fixed IP by DHCP.

If you can manually configure things, I have no idea how you make any changes stick in PCLinuxOS since I've never used it.
 
Old 08-25-2008, 09:22 AM   #3
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I think your on the right track there about
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In general you only have these problems if an IP is statically declared on your interface. If DHCP is used instead, the route and DNS entries are usually set during DHCP negotiations, even if you are assigned a fixed IP by DHCP.

If you can manually configure things, I have no idea how you make any changes stick in PCLinuxOS since I've never used it.
But most Slackware based distros do this out of the box. The only distros that fails are

Pclinuxos, DSL, Knoppix, Kanotix and some more most likely using the same script or
original distros being a variation on it. DSL is a small Knoppix if I get it.
Pclinuxos are kind of related to them too? Ok Mandriva Mandrake maybe but seems to use
same hardware recognition, at least fails in same way always.

I spent many hours and got so frustrated that I deleted the DVD+RW so it has another
distro on it but ufortunately that was a install distro but DW info didn't tell that.
 
Old 08-27-2008, 04:13 AM   #4
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And to show how unpredictable this is.

I downloaded another live distro.
gnewsense-livecd-deltah-2.1.iso

It had no problem connecting me to the internet at all.
Out of the box. I had not to do anything.

So pclinuxos is different. It lacks the script that
gnewsense-livecd-deltah-2.1.iso has for how to get out.

Could one borrow from a working distro to the pclinuxos distro.
Maybe not I could but could not the developers of pclinux do it?
Would they only get angry if I told them about it? Pride or something?

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Old 08-27-2008, 04:57 AM   #5
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If you use a static IP you need to supply a nameserver yourself.
Via DHCP it is automatic - but where should the info come from if you explicitely tell it to use a static IP and not also supply a valid nameserver?
 
Old 08-27-2008, 05:50 AM   #6
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If the gnewsense cd make it without any question and most of the
Slackware distros does it too then why doesn't pclinuxos do it?

I tried for hours to give it every possible answer so it would
act like any other distro does. to make it out of the box.

So there is something different about how pclinuxos does it.

I guess they see it as a big improvement and control and choice
but it fails for us who doesn't know what to do with all those
improvements that doesn'twork out of the box.

Are you sure that you fail to see it from my point of view.
We could still agree upon that pclinuxos give more control
or more choice but that choice depends on the person using
it knows what to answer and I tried every combination possible
for hours so they have done it too complicated for noobs.
 
Old 08-27-2008, 07:09 AM   #7
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This is not about agreement - and it may just be too complicated for noobs.
OTOH - it may not...
That you where not able to figure it out can mean that it just plain does not work - or that you overlooked something.
It certainly can be made working - so much for trying "every combination possible".
Just tell them if it bothers you.
 
  


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