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unix1adm 03-20-2012 07:32 AM

oracle linux
 
Currently we are using RH Linux. We are considering going to Oracle Linux as they seem to be cheaper and are based on the RH Linux.

The cost of their Satellite Server function alone in much less. RH is like $13000.


I am not overly pleased with RH support and response times to our issues. They always want to downgrade our issues and take for ever to get back to us. not to mention they dont answer all the questions.

I find most of my solutions in google before they ever get back to us.

Oracle support model seems to be better too.
I have several questions:
1. What do people feel about Oracle Linux ? good / bad any technical concerns etc.
2. How is Oracle support?
3. Pricing seem to be a lot less than RH is there any catch to that?
4. Any thoughts on Oracle VM? vs VMWare vm (we use VmWare here heavily. Oracle will not support DB on it.
5. their version of satellite server is different and we would have to rewrite a a bunch of stuff. but I hear it can support RH servers not just Oracle Linux.
6. I was told about Ksplice and live kernel updates without rebooting. This would be very good for us. Does it work for real?

We run Linux/AIX/UNIX here and we are converting some of the AIX DB to Linux DB and Oracle will support that.

Any other thought people have would be great. We will soon be doing a POC with them and I would like to have some more knowledge before we do that.

To that I am googleing the heck out of it but thought I would ask here too.

Thanx

CJ

Thor_2.0 03-21-2012 01:27 PM

Hi,

Seen that there is some silence around this thread...
Personally, cheaper is not always better. I've always gone with the stuff that provided ample security. More the "rubber band stretch" as I'd like to call it.
One other (possible) option is going one-on-one with your own servers instead. Combined with any other services to cover the ground you dont cover...

Good luck, and, following this thread, there's something to be learned here, I'm sure ;)

Thor

unix1adm 03-22-2012 08:35 AM

well the issue is Oracle does not support oracle db on RH on VM so we may be forced to switch to oracle for that reason. They only support oracle on physical system.s Many of ours are VM machines.

We too are not thrilled with the support we are getting from RH and we have a the highest level of support.

I like the idea of being able to update the kernel live too. take a reboot at a later time using ksplice.
Ya I am surprised no one has spoke up.

We have lots of research to do before making any decisions.

Thor_2.0 03-22-2012 11:23 AM

Well, it figures....of course Oracle will only support THEIR Linux and not someone else's. A different apporach could be to have an Oracle Linux Data server and an other Linux on the application server.

If that could be an option.

Quote:

Ya I am surprised no one has spoke up.
So am I, but it could well be due to the fact that a majority use mySQL instead...

Is it any application in particular you're working on?
Just being curious ;)

Thor

orlan52 03-26-2012 08:25 AM

Oracle Linux
 
Hello:

I could not help responding to your comments...I work for Oracle and can tell you that OL (Oracle Linux) tracks to Red Hat Linux kernel so it is not different in that regard, rather its the support which is from Oracle and you will have access to all the same patches and updates as with Red Hat. Oracle Linux is also cheaper than Red Hat and does not charge and nickle and dime you for satellite servers etc. Also, K-Splice works very well and it is easily demonstrated to work and use. If you have any questions, please let me know as I just registerd for this forum.

Regards,

Orlando Delgado

Thor_2.0 04-01-2012 02:31 PM

Thanks Orlando...and I cannot help but to welcome you to the forum :) and you brought clear info as well! How cool's that!

As I may well be in the position of hosting (near or more distant future) a private server...where does Oracle stand with Java/mySQL/Linux support? Any intel I can pick up from the site itself?

Thanks!

Thor


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