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Old 08-06-2003, 01:16 AM   #16
wllall005
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HansErick

I have the same motherboard as you, the Intel D865GBF with 82801EB AC'97 on board. I also have no sound. I used modprobe to load the snd-intel8x0 module, which successfully loaded.
/dev/dsp and /dev/mixer exist.
I stopped the aRts sound server, and tried to get XMMS to play using the OSS driver. XMMS seems to happily play, but no sound. I've tried both aumix and kmix, so it doesn't seem to be a muting problem.
Any ideas?
Allen
 
Old 08-07-2003, 12:01 AM   #17
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Hey!

I haven't solved the sound problem yet. I know everything is physically hooked up right, I get sound in Win XP Pro. I dual boot.

I've played with aumix and kmix, that didn't solve the problem. I did notice that when ever I run the mixer program it has checked the muted option again in the pull down menu. So I have to have to uncheck it and play with the controls. But still no sound. Have no idea where to look. A guy at the Mandrakeexpert.com site thinks that it is some how related to my 9200 Radeon card. He recommeded going to:

http://www.zebulon.org.uk/xcrashati_en.html

Checked the site out but I couldn't see how my video card was causing my no sound problem.

Mandrake isn't impressing me. I've had hassles getting it to work with my Robotics PCI modem(its a real modem not a winmodem). Problem was Robotics installs to com4. I don't know why but Mandrake didn't pick it up. Had to create a device pointing devmodem to correct com port. Give permission, edit resolv.conf and several other steps before getting the modem to work. Most of it was far from obvious or intuitive. It now works well, though.

Then my system wouldn't power down all the way. Our motherboard uses ACPI. Had to install ACPI in Mandrake control center, tell it to use ACPI and then edit lifo.conf. Just one thing after another. Stuff I don't think an end user should have to fix after shelling out 70 bucks for the powerpack.

Right now I've moved it to the back burner, I've got more important things happening. It will probably stay there for a while. Which is too bad, I wanted an alternative to M$. In the end I just spent too much time on the internet trying to find solutions to this piddlely crap and not running my apps. Comes down to "Do you want an OS to fiddle around with for the sake of fiddling around?" or "Do you want a system in which to get your work done?" I wasn't getting any work done. I personally don't think you should have to open a command line and hack a solution to get every little thing to work.

Good LucK!

Hans Erick

Last edited by HansErick; 08-07-2003 at 12:16 AM.
 
Old 08-07-2003, 12:12 AM   #18
HansErick
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wllall005,

Found that Intel has sound drivers for Rehat and SUSE at our motherboard site. Could these work in Mandrake? Or be easily edited to run in MDK.

http://www.intel.com/design/motherbd/linux/

Also, could the Intel D865GBF be recent enough that MDK hasn't had a chance to write drivers to support it?

Just a thoughts.

Han Erick
 
Old 08-07-2003, 02:14 AM   #19
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Hans,
Thanks for the reply - I seem to have finally got sound working, hopefully this works for you. I also have a dual boot with XP pro, and likewise checked that the sound card actually worked under XP. Basically I think my problem was using the wrong speaker channel, but I'll explain all the steps I went through to get my sound working:

1) I had to ensure that my sound module was loaded when the machine booted since for some reason it wasn't. When logging into KDE I would get a dialog saying that aRts could not find the /dev/dsp device and was redirecting output to /dev/null. Doing lsmod showed no snd modules, so I loaded the module with "modprobe snd-intel8x0". I then added the line
snd-intel8x0
to my /etc/modules file to ensure that when I next rebooted, the module was loaded.

2) started kmix, and like you found that it was muted. Unmuted and made sure that the master volume and pcm volume weren't muted.

3) started xmms, checked the configuration for the output plugin, used xmms's OSS driver - although there is one for the aRts sound server, I figured I'd first try the OSS driver.

4) with XMMS playing, still no sound. I tried plugging the speakers into the "rear" lineout. I also fiddled more with the kmix controls, and the aumix controls, suddenly there was a blast of sound. There are two problems here: one, XP uses the one jack for stereo output while linux uses the other jack for output; two, kmix doesn't seem to start up with the actual sound card volumes reflected on it's sliders. I found that there was no sound, even though the master volume slider was at max when it started up. The first time I tried to drag the slider, suddenly the volume on the sound card shot up to match kmix's setting.

I think that my machine still starts up with muted sound, and maybe one day I will try and sort that out, but for the moment I'm happy to just have it working.
I haven't looked at that intel link yet, it may prove useful though. I think part of the problem is that the snd_intel8x0 module is too generic. I think you are right that the motherboard is still too recent, and that in the future there will be better support for it.

I agree with your comments regarding ease of use - inevitably some linux guru will say "it's easy, I just recompiled the kernel to support my sound card...", which is entirely not the point in my view. However, I was more fortunate with my home machine (an AMD setup). I installed XP and Mandrake 9.1 on that one with no fuss. Sound worked, and mandrake seemed to know more about my monitor than XP did which is a first! Also, Mandrake is able to correctly power down my machine while XP fails miserably. In my limited experience, mandrake 9.1 is the simplest linux distribution to install.

Hope you get sorted out!

cheers
Allen
 
Old 08-07-2003, 12:33 PM   #20
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Allen,

This is my output from lsmod, at least the output concerning what we are talking about.

snd-seq-oss 35744 0 (unused)
snd-seq-midi-event 6152 0 [snd-seq-oss]
snd-seq 49648 2 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event]
snd-pcm-oss 46084 0
snd-mixer-oss 16248 0 [snd-pcm-oss]
snd-intel8x0 24516 4
snd-pcm 87424 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-intel8x0]
snd-timer 20584 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm]
snd-ac97-codec 44256 0 [snd-intel8x0]
snd-page-alloc 8700 0 [snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm]
snd-mpu401-uart 5096 0 [snd-intel8x0]
snd-rawmidi 19200 0 [snd-mpu401-uart]
snd-seq-device 6252 0 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi]
snd 45156 4 [snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-ac97-codec snd-mpu401-uart snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device]
soundcore 7236 0 [snd]

What do you think?

Hans Erick
 
Old 08-08-2003, 01:23 AM   #21
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Hans,
Not being an expert I can't say much more except that it looks pretty close to mine - looks like your snd-intel8x0 module loads on start up so that should be fine.
check that /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer exist.
try running xmms from the command line, and try to play an mp3/wav, and see if xmms spews any error messages/dialogs.
Have you tried both lineout jacks from your motherboard's soundcard?

cheers
Allen
 
Old 09-04-2003, 01:21 AM   #22
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Angry same prob here...

hey guys,

I'm having the exact same problem here... I'm using an HP D530c tower that has the Intel 865 chipset. I installed the drivers from Intel's site, but no audio! I've checked/played with aumixer, kmix, and alsamixer, but no luck...

I've spent a lot of time troubleshooting this without any luck and i've tried all the tips you guys have suggested. If anyone gets it working, please post or send me an email at tkeeler@rcn.com

Thanks!
 
Old 09-06-2003, 03:03 AM   #23
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I don't have sound either; nice to see I'm not the only one

Running Mandrake 9.1 on a laptop with a Acer Laboratories Inc. [ALi]|M5451 PCI South Bridge Audio soundcard. I don't seem to have the mixer nor the dsp file. I read about a makedev command which should work but it doesn't.... the modprobe stuff doesn't do much either.

This is what the terminal says when I try to run a song in xmms :

mcop warning: user defined signal handler found for SIG_PIPE, overriding
arts_init error: can't connect to aRts soundserver

Any clue how I can get the files back and make my soundcard work?

Thanks in advance, any outputs from any commands I will happily give you when needed.

Last edited by CrOvAx; 09-06-2003 at 03:06 AM.
 
Old 09-29-2003, 01:37 AM   #24
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Hi tkeeler,

I have a D865perl motherboard - 82801eb ac97... Same problem. Have you managed to fix yours?
 
Old 09-29-2003, 11:07 AM   #25
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My sound problems were solved by shutting down arts, which I believe is KDE's sound system. I had volume, though; just bad sound/crackling.

Last edited by mac_phil; 09-29-2003 at 11:09 AM.
 
Old 09-30-2004, 06:25 PM   #26
metgorna
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I have the same problem with via 8233a souncard and VIA m/b.
The only way I can get sound working is..
Disable aRTS in KDE control center
Using XMMS and Mplayer with ALSA output (XMMS-alsa plug-in).
They sounds fine but I can play only a sound at time...:-(
If I'm listening to an MP3 I can't hear system sounds or others...
I'm trying to find a solution with aRTS or JACKit but both can't connect to ALSA...
I dunno why... If anyone could help me...

#artsd
gives me:
ALSA lib pcm_hw.c:549snd_pcm_hw_start) SNDRV_PCM_IOCTL_START failed: Broken pipe

#jackd -d alsa (as root)
gives me:
loading driver ..
creating alsa driver ... hw:0|hw:0|1024|2|48000|0|0|nomon|swmeter|-|32bit
control device hw:0
configuring for 48000Hz, period = 1024 frames, buffer = 2 periods
Couldn't open hw:0 for 32bit samples trying 24bit instead
Couldn't open hw:0 for 24bit samples trying 16bit instead
Couldn't open hw:0 for 32bit samples trying 24bit instead
Couldn't open hw:0 for 24bit samples trying 16bit instead
ALSA: poll time out, polled for 31988559 usecs
ALSA: poll time out, polled for 31989400 usecs
and so on...............with 5sec delay.....................

I tried to install ALSA 1.0.6 driver and libs from tarball but nothing changed...
Tried same thing with aRTS source and JACK.... NO WAY!!!

PLEASE HELP ME!!!
THANKS IN ADVANCE
 
  


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