I suppose a distro coming with stuff out of the box is good, but I prefer to have nothing installed unless I tell it to install
Distro wars exsist because people have nothing better to do than argue. I think one of the best things about linux is freedom of choice. For example, I don't like rpm's so I don't have to use them
You might like them so you can use them, more power to you. I think this wonderful quality is often overlooked