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For example: When I browse through Suse 9 Enterprise I see a lot of programs that have short names and no way of explaining what they are.
And what names exactly are they?
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This is not fun and I don't have time for this.
This is fun for me, I have time for this and I like it. Guess Linux/*BSD makes a perfect OS to me...
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But giving a windows users a choice will just confuse them.
Then (sory for this expression) Windows (l)users are unable to think and decide for themselves. They must be much more stupid than an average human.
For example: Does the variety of cars in the market confuse someone? Are you confused, when you go to the shop and see many kinds of TV sets, radios, etc.? Computer iliterate people aren't even very confused with the variety of items in computer hardware market. Then why not make OS market similar to car market? I think it should be so. And you can choose the best TV or radio without even knowing how it works. It is simple. You just look up the specifications of the device, and choose what best suits your needs. Why are you thinking that is impossible in linux world? It is even better - you can try various linux distributions for unlimited time, without paying money to see if you like the product. So are you too lazy to do this?
I'm sorry if I was a bit rough, but this is what it seems from your posts.
Skrilla, what in the hell are you talking about. So now not only have you decided what
Linux was, is, should be, but that if it doesn't meet the standards that YOU decide then
it's not worth using.
Well, thank Frith your there looking out for us 2million plus users to see the error of our
ways.
You claim to represent companies and multiple individual interests yet you come across as
a kid with NO IDEA about Linux, the community here, or the problems that Linux was
created to address.
I don't mean for this to sound as if I'm attacking you, but you should really do a little
research before throwing out nonsensical statements.
FartWiz... great reply. I've been to all of the sites that you all have listed for many years now and yes I know of the POSIX "standards". Let me give you a simple comparison here. Windows Franchise VS. thousands upon thousands of Linux Distros. I just see the community spreading themselves too thin.
Cron... you are not nice and that was not acceptable. Please refrain from replying.
Zackarya... you make a great point. And no I'm not a kid... and yes I've done my research. Look if I were asking for myself it wouldn't sound so "nonsensical". This whole topic should have lit light bulbs off in every one of your heads. This is the market that you've been trying to tap. I'm just the middle man here. Don't get angry at me.
Originally posted by Skrilla This is the market that you've been trying to tap.
This is turning into a rather funny discussion.
Skrilla, if you know so much about the market and operating systems, what's stopping you from creating your own standardised OS and market it the way you want. Maybe you're OS will go on to 'dominate the universe'. And please refrain from telling me what I should or should not use and why, thank you.
well, i guess it pays to read the whole thread before you post a reply!!
well we learn from our mistakes....
Had i have seen your subsequent posts i wouldn't have bothered to reply at all, but now im angry!
it seems pretty obvious to me that you have no real interest in using linux only picking a fight, if you cant be bothered to learn about something then dont bother to use it. The linux community owes you nothing ... nothing at all ...
You say you are part of the market that is not educated in linux ... this much is evident. If you are not educated then either educate yourself or use windows and keep your opinions to yourself
You also say that if you cannot get the help you need from the linux community then you will enter the development side and change things for yourself .... great then do it .... although if you cant use it i wonder how you will develop it ... education seems to be a reccurring theme here!
Why do i need to use an OS that "dominates the universe"? answer .. i dont ... i need to use an OS that serves my needs and encourages me to learn more about the OS i use ..... frankly windows doesnt ... hence i use linux
as for your business ethics .... linux isnt about making money and dominating the market, its about giving users choice.
And educating the market? .....try google my freind ... all the education you could ever need and its all free.
I am working on an OS that is Linux based but all of this pessimism makes it frustrating.
Okay again with the misunderstanding. You're taking it way out of context. I'm not trying to create an OS that will "dominate the universe".
I never told anyone what they should use?
Skrilla seems to forget all the training he had to go through to figure out how Windows works. And he seems to think everyone else in the world knows how Windows works too. Well, I know people that are just as clueless on Windows as they are about Linux.
Skrilla, did you ever buy a distribution like SUSE that comes with the user and administrator manuals in a shrink-wrapped box? No? Well, I bet you did ten years ago when you bought Windows. How many books do you have on Windows? How many books do you have on Linux or any distribution of Linux?
Your Linux ignorance is showing. Better cover it up. Can't do that by claiming "ethics" (how the hell did that get in there?).
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Originally posted by Skrilla Johnson_Steve.... watch yourself... I'm not trying to start a fight here. And yes I have used the man command. I think you all are not understanding what I am trying to do here. Your intentions are always good but your execution is lacking.
if you know how to use the man command why did you complain that there was no way to find out what an app was with out going online and doing a search?
also linux isn't a company it's more like a whole bunch of non profits. some companies are selling it and the do a good job of educating their customers with their web pages all I'm saying is anything you want to know is out there but you must go get it. we can't help you if you don't post a specific problem.
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Originally posted by Skrilla If you do not believe that Linux can be a dominating OS in the universe then you should not be using it. You might as well abandon all hope in it.
I'm not picking a fight so please settle down. Losing control of yourself is not the right thing to do.
And again... you're taking it out of context when I say "dominate the universe"
IF YOU DO NOT BELIEVE IN LINUX THEN WHY ARE YOU BACKING IT UP?
Look....you're all just misunderstanding me and overreacting. This is the reason why Solution Providers have a hard time working with the Linux Community.
and another thing lol ....
i still think your quote is cool .... but it doesn't suit you ....
you evidently don't believe that anything is possible .... and as for not knowing everything? thats not the impression you seem to be putting across.
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