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Old 05-07-2003, 07:43 AM   #1
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Help with SuSE 8.2 Resolution problem


Hey all,

I just installed SuSE 8.2 on my Toshiba Satellite Laptop. It is a 1.8GHz laptop with 512MB RAM, and a Nvidia GeForce 4 Go 16MB Card.

During the install I specified VESA 1024x768@85Hz. I did this because it didn't recognize my monitor (laptop display). I can go into SAX2 and try to change it but it always seems to want to stay at 800x600. In the Geometry section for display I can't pick any higher than that.

During the install it contacted the SuSE website and downloaded the latest NVidia drivers and installed them.

Everything seems to be working kick butt....I just can't seem to figure out how to get it to run @ 1024x768.

This laptop has a 15" Screen and It ran Windows XP Pro at 1024x768.

Hmm...

Alll help is appreciated

Last edited by Whitehat; 05-07-2003 at 08:30 PM.
 
Old 05-07-2003, 05:49 PM   #2
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Open (Control Center) YaST2 -> Hardware -> Graphic Card and Monitor -> Graphical Desktop Environment - Change -> Properties -> Monitor Model -> select --> LCD - 1024x768@60Hz

Re-login after logout.


Have fun :-)
 
Old 05-07-2003, 06:56 PM   #3
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Hey,

Thanks anyway.....didn't work

I've tried about everything I can think of. Even took all other modes out of the XF86Config file and only left 1024x768.

In the Geometry section that is in the same area as Monitor model it only lists 800x600. I cannot get that to go any higher.

I don't know what the problem is.....
 
Old 05-08-2003, 05:16 AM   #4
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You might try going to NVIDIA's site and downloading latest driver from there. You will find SUSE only provide a dummy driver to make the card work. To get the full performance of the card you need the real driver. NVIDIA stuff is all proprietry and they do not publish specs of there cards.

Good luck.
 
Old 05-08-2003, 07:53 AM   #5
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During the installation it said it downloaded that driver from NVidia.

Infact it says that the driver is an NVidia driver. Is this not true?

No Dice...
 
Old 05-08-2003, 08:58 AM   #6
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Hey Whitehat

SuSE 8.2 is very nice

You need to use sax2

sytem -> configuration -> sax2

enter root password

takes a minute then you have the interface. Expand the Desktop portion of the tree on the left. Select the Graphics card section first, hit change configuration and choose your card under the nvidia section. return to the main menu but dont finalize yet. Now select the monitor section and change configuration. Delete the monitor thats listed and add yours (even if it is the same). Return to the main section (don't finalize). Then select the Color and resolution section. Change configuration - set the color depth and resolution (1024x768) return to the main section. Now select finalize and test the config. That should work for you. I had a similar problem trying to change my default resolution after install. If you dont remove the monitor and install a new one it won't accept the new settings.

HTH
 
Old 05-08-2003, 02:54 PM   #7
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Don't trust YaST for downloading the newest nVidia driver!
Go to the official nVidia driver download site!

http://www.nvidia.com/view.asp?IO=li..._ia32_1.0-4363

It's the one executable that ends .run, not two .rpms which YaST d/l-ed ;-)

Boot in safe mode (init 3).
Install (run) the nVidia driver installer.
Run sax2, accept whatever it can offer.
Run xf86config if sax2 fails then run SuSEconfig.
Try startx (init 5) ;-)



Have more fun :-)
 
Old 05-08-2003, 06:35 PM   #8
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Hey all,

I did what you said aherm. It worked.

I also realized that at the time it works is when 3D acceleration is "not enabled".

If I enable it, for like Foo Billiards or something, it makes the resolution get all goofy and go back to 800x600 only.

I guess I'll have to not play stuff then

Thanks to you all. I'm happy for now

Peace...
 
Old 05-09-2003, 12:17 PM   #9
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I'm not sure what you mean by all goofy, but if you don't get 3D hardware excelleration, I may know what the problem is.

Before I switched to 8.2 I was using SuSE 8.0. I wanted to ugrade to the latest driver using the .run program. I saw that they didn't recommend it, but I did it anyway

Long story short, the install went well, but the simlinks to the nvidia GLX libraries were not done properly so I had no 3D. My solution was to delete the old simlinks and recreate new ones per the nvidial readme. (there was one that was not created at all). The .run program also removed the "switch2nvidia" script which suse uses to rewrite the simlinks. Things may be different with 8.2 - I used YOU and Sax2 and it worked well so I don't know from experience.

If you think this may be the problem let me know and I'll tell you more specifically what I did.
 
Old 05-09-2003, 11:53 PM   #10
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I'm having almost the exact same problem except for I have a Nanao FlexScan T2-17 which is definatly capable of even higher than 1600x1200... I do have the latest Nvidia drivers and under geometry mine shows up as 1400x1050... Mine always shows that the 3D Acceleration is off as well (even though it is on) though I do have my color bit set as 24-bit (not recommended by SaX2) I would definatly need more instructions on changing those symlinks over =) I'm still pretty new to linux, but I would say I'm novice at least.

Thanks
 
Old 05-10-2003, 12:38 AM   #11
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just because something says thet 3D excelleration is disabled doen't mean it is. (welcome to linux )

The only way to tell is to play a game like chromium. If you can play it with smooth graphics, then 3D is enabled.

If 3d is not enabled you'll get VERY choppy graphics - like 1 frame per second. This means the GLX isn't being loaded properly and there may be several reasons for this that should be checked before redoing the simlinks.
 
Old 05-10-2003, 02:13 AM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by Franklin
just because something says thet 3D excelleration is disabled doen't mean it is. (welcome to linux )

The only way to tell is to play a game like chromium. If you can play it with smooth graphics, then 3D is enabled.

If 3d is not enabled you'll get VERY choppy graphics - like 1 frame per second. This means the GLX isn't being loaded properly and there may be several reasons for this that should be checked before redoing the simlinks.
Yes I realize that it is working, I was just pointing that out that's why I threw that “(even though it is on)” in there... As for the other issue, do you have any idea one what things I might want to check?

Thanks
 
Old 05-10-2003, 08:48 AM   #13
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Ok, I re-read your post and I think we are slightly misunderstanding each other. Let me try to get clear...

What you seem to be saying is that your getting 3d excelleration (which means your loading the nvidiaGLX just fine), but you're having the same issue as Whitehat in regard to changes occuring when playing games requiring 3D hardware support.

The problem for me is that i never really found out specifically what whitehat's problem was, or what he meant by "all goofy", or how he was enabling 3D etc. If you can be specific about what "you're" experiencing, I can (hopefully) avoid giving you crappy advice

added note:

3D accelleration is automatically disabled if you are using 24 bit color mode. Configure your resolutions to use 16 bit and 3D accelleration will be enabled at all resolutions.

HTH

Last edited by Franklin; 05-10-2003 at 10:29 AM.
 
Old 05-10-2003, 03:41 PM   #14
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Oh... there is no problem with the 3D I don't think whitehat had a problem with it either... What happens is that it seems with this new Nvidia driver messes with your resolutions, he was trying to use 1024x768 and got 800x600, where I'm trying to use 1600x1200 and am getting 1400x1050... The resolution in SaX2 is set as 1600x1200 but then when you go to the Geometry section it reports it as 1400x1050 which it definatly is... Also 3D Acceleration seems to be working for me even with 24-bit color... Unless I'm really in 16-bit color and just can't tell since linux just looks soooo nice any way you package it!
 
Old 05-10-2003, 04:32 PM   #15
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Have you tried using the "screen resize and rotate" applet under sytem->configuration. It works very well fo me switching resolutions on the fly. Check it out if you haven't yet.
 
  


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