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Old 09-25-2009, 04:28 PM   #1
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goodbye Knoppix


I see that Knoppix, one of my favorite liveCD distros, doesn't use KDE anymroe, having switched to a lightweight desktop environment called LXDE. I guess that does it for Knoppix and me. I don't have time to learn my way around a new desktop environment; I'm a graduate student. Booooooooooo. Sorry, just blowing off steam here.
 
Old 09-25-2009, 04:40 PM   #2
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Nothin wrong with LXDE dog
if you wanna practice with lxde, grab one of the lxde remastersys iso's and make your own remaster of it with remastersys
its pretty cool

http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/rll.html

http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/rl4.html

http://www.geekconnection.org/remastersys/index.html
 
Old 09-25-2009, 04:44 PM   #3
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No time to practice accomodating a change. I should be doing homework right now.
 
Old 09-25-2009, 04:45 PM   #4
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Go back to the older version of knoppix then?

wont any distro with KDE be OK?
or you just want Knoppix?

GRML has more stuff then Knoppix too
 
Old 09-25-2009, 09:01 PM   #5
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No time to practice accomodating a change. I should be doing homework right now.
LXDE is pretty simple. Nothing much to learn or practise.
 
Old 09-25-2009, 09:24 PM   #6
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Go back to the older version of knoppix then?
I could--I notice that unlike with some other distros, Knoppix mirrors bother to offer ancient versions--but the older version's software will be out-of-date.

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GRML has more stuff then Knoppix too
GRML? I haven't heard of that distro. New one?

I'm used to Debian-based distros--mostly MEPIS and Knoppix--and would like to stick with them. I've gone through Xandros, Knoppix, MEPIS, and Ubuntu--so I don't know of much else to try except Debian itself. Gulp.
 
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OK
grml is debian, or a flavor thereof

you can get grml in lenny, sid or testing
small, medium and full

my grml-magix in thorshammer is grml/hag
hag-linux is based off grml, which is based off debian
much more hw-detect stuff than knoppix, many many cool apps too

http://grml.org/

you can get the newest daily builds here
http://daily.grml.org/
 
Old 10-15-2009, 07:47 AM   #8
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LXDE is pretty simple. Nothing much to learn or practise.
Totally Agree with that. LXDE is very lightweight and Easy to use.
 
Old 10-16-2009, 01:36 AM   #9
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I'm a big KDE fan myself and am disapointed with Knoppix dropping KDE support. I'll probably switch to the Fedora KDE live CD instead. I've been using Knoppix for years and I too will be dropping it if it doesn't support some really essential KDE apps. If they are going to install KDE libs then why drop the rest of KDE? Makes no sense to me. In a a live CD I want easy to use apps not those monstrosities they like to stuff in default Gnome distros that are often buggy if they run at all. If they do run you have to learn a whole new set of KB shortcuts and menus for each and every one of them. With KDE almost all KDE apps have a consistant interface, look and feel that makes usin apps even ones you've never tried before easy with almost no learning curve. When your using a live CD the last thing you want is to be fumbling with interfaces, be unsure of what app does what an where the options are.

I use KDE an in a live cd it's a whole lot easier to use the same interface your used too. Thus a major time saver as well. Think about it, most of the time when your using a live CD it's because something bad has happened or you are away from your computers an you don't want to mess with a windoze installation, so you pop in your handy live CD, have a real OS to use.

Taking KDE away defeats all that. At an often already stressful time your having to decipher a totally different interface for each app, if you can even find a GUI app to do what your trying to do. Then if you do, what are you going to do use some half working joke of an app like Gnome Bake to burn a CD? No thanks. I'll stick with KDE with it's very user friendly K3b, Kedit, etc.
 
Old 10-16-2009, 12:31 PM   #10
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I don't want to criticize Knoppix's editorial decision; I just don't have the time or inclination to learn a new desktop environment, easy or not, when I could simply switch distros.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 06:01 PM   #11
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I recently installed Knoppix 6.2 DVD edition to a USB pen drive, instructions available here. The LXDE desktop is alright and very fast compared to KDE, the processor cooling fan in my laptop does not kick it up a notch when using LXDE, but does using KDE.
Booting the DVD edition with "knoppix desktop=kde" typed into the boot prompt boots into KDE as specified in the knoppix cheat sheets available at Knoppix download sites.
If you have no choice but to use the CD, you can remaster the CD to use KDE instead of LXDE, use "remastering knoppix" as keywords in a Google search to find tutorials.

You can indeed keep using Knoppix with superior hardware detection and drivers for same...with KDE, you found the time to hang out in this forum, deductive reasoning dictates you can make the time to set yourself up with a KDE Knoppix without much effort.

Last edited by Brains; 12-23-2009 at 06:02 PM.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 06:55 PM   #12
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Try sidux , its debian sid, and cds come with either kde4 or xfce.

sidux 2009-03 :: sidux.com :: debian based live cd development
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sidux is a full featured Debian sid based live CD with a special focus on hard disk installations, a clean upgrade path within sid and additional hardware and software support. The ISO is completely based on Debian sid, enriched and stabilized with sidux' own packages and scripts.
 
  


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