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Old 12-26-2007, 11:06 PM   #16
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actually if its not to late that you have "defected" from your beloved rpm-based distro , then i think you shouldnt have any problem with booting your linux ... if not , then where you want to go to , you tell me ...

so , you dont even need to report failures in booting linux(everybody do that sometime) ... yup , your case its absurd ...



//try again and again ...




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Old 12-26-2007, 11:42 PM   #17
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well idk maybe because i had bad experiences with Debian Installation
 
Old 12-26-2007, 11:57 PM   #18
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actually if its not to late that you have "defected" from your beloved rpm-based distro , then i think you shouldnt have any problem with booting your linux ... if not , then where you want to go to , you tell me ...

so , you dont even need to report failures in booting linux(everybody do that sometime) ... yup , your case its absurd ...



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well the laptop it will be on isn't mine so i won't have time to check everything for it if i don't know how to do something if it is something like Mandriva or Fedora i can help him faster
 
Old 12-27-2007, 05:02 PM   #19
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iro, with the amount of memory you have compiz will be slow.

I can see why someone would prefer rpm based distros. Right now I'm using Fedora, Yellow Dog, and Ubuntu. I love yum on the command line and yumex as a gui. I use synaptic and dpkg in Ubuntu and find them relatively weak (will be trying gDebi shortly).

If Mandriva is only slow when running Compiz you should probably use that for a while and add more memory as 192MB makes Compiz cry. If there are other times the laptop is slow, open a command line and run 'top' to see what's eating memory. If your acpi is running well get lmsensors to check the temp of your processor at those times. (I use KSensors in KDE for a nice gui.)

I use Firefox fairly exclusively, but it has memory leaks (this week I caught it eating 10 times the memory it uses right now!) If your laptop gets slow while using Firefox, restart it and see if that's the issue.
 
Old 12-27-2007, 05:15 PM   #20
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I don't have any memory leak issues with Firefox. Is this related to Fedora patching or something?
 
Old 12-27-2007, 05:16 PM   #21
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well the laptop it will be on isn't mine so i won't have time to check everything for it if i don't know how to do something if it is something like Mandriva or Fedora i can help him faster
In that case check out PCLinuxOS. If someone else is going to be using it but you are still more comfortable with RPMs, that might be the best choice.
 
Old 12-28-2007, 07:51 AM   #22
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>> "well idk maybe because i had bad experiences with Debian Installation"

normally people will stick to distros(big or small)of a certain packaging method that they are used to(not that they like it or familiar with or worst ... the best one around) ... you have to start using it ...


so ... your case is still absurb as far as what i can see ...



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Old 12-29-2007, 12:34 AM   #23
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There's nothing 'absurd' about desiring rpm based distros. I have no desire to criticize debian, slack, or gentoo because I get why they are objectively the best for some situations. Subjectively rpm(RedHatPackagemanager) and yum(Yellow dog Updater, Modified) are without peer, IMHO. I would suggest that if any further posters would like to criticize the original poster for desiring rpm as absurd, they might want to back it up with a critique on what is arguably the best package management system ever.
 
Old 12-29-2007, 12:42 AM   #24
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I don't have any memory leak issues with Firefox. Is this related to Fedora patching or something?
I guess 3 fixed a lot, that may be my issue. Fedora has kept me out of the loop.
 
Old 12-29-2007, 06:32 AM   #25
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The only differences between the two I have ever noticed was the (1) rpms are dressed with more frilly features and (2) all the latest hardware drivers are first designed in a tarz file and a bit more of a pain to load in your rpms. Usually if you can wait for a couple of months someone will make a rpm out of it so that you can use your package manager. Take those away and how does the average person tell the difference?

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Old 12-29-2007, 10:30 AM   #26
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after reading postiongs down here ... i may try going back to rpm based ones on my laptop ...



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Old 12-29-2007, 03:44 PM   #27
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Well this discussion is going crazy... :P

I installed Mandriva one 2008 and works fine so far, i didn't try virtual box yet.
 
Old 12-30-2007, 09:09 AM   #28
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There's nothing 'absurd' about desiring rpm based distros. I have no desire to criticize debian, slack, or gentoo because I get why they are objectively the best for some situations. Subjectively rpm(RedHatPackagemanager) and yum(Yellow dog Updater, Modified) are without peer, IMHO. I would suggest that if any further posters would like to criticize the original poster for desiring rpm as absurd, they might want to back it up with a critique on what is arguably the best package management system ever.
You really should improve your reading comprehension skills before tilting at windmills and attacking the comments of others. I didn't see a single poster criticize your precious little RPMs or call the OP absurd for desiring an RPM based distro.

I stated that the OPs statement that he "can't use Debian-based distros" was absurd, because anyone can use them just as they can use any other distro. And if you truly understood the written word you would have understood that my following it up by asking if the OP were allergic to them indicated that it was a facetious remark.

Really now, get over your little fanboy attitude and don't go around attacking people in an attempt to defend what you personally perceive as the "best package management system ever" because everyone has their own opinions, requirements, and preferences with regard to distros and package management. I'm pretty sure the OP is perfectly capable of defending himself if he feels the need arises.

The OP did in fact respond and provide the requested info, which was why exactly an RPM based distro was preferred (someone else using the machine and it would be easier for the OP to maintain) so the desired result was obtained and nobody's feeling were hurt, except perhaps yours which is kind of funny since not a single comment was directed towards yourself.

It looks like the OP has settled on a choice and proceeded so he got exactly what he asked for, which was some feedback on choices.
 
Old 12-30-2007, 11:12 AM   #29
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It looks like the OP has settled on a choice and proceeded so he got exactly what he asked for, which was some feedback on choices.
It works fine with Dual boot as well so i guess it is settled like you said
 
Old 12-30-2007, 11:57 AM   #30
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You really should improve your reading comprehension skills before tilting at windmills and attacking the comments of others. I didn't see a single poster criticize your precious little RPMs or call the OP absurd for desiring an RPM based distro.

I stated that the OPs statement that he "can't use Debian-based distros" was absurd, because anyone can use them just as they can use any other distro. And if you truly understood the written word you would have understood that my following it up by asking if the OP were allergic to them indicated that it was a facetious remark.

Really now, get over your little fanboy attitude and don't go around attacking people in an attempt to defend what you personally perceive as the "best package management system ever" because everyone has their own opinions, requirements, and preferences with regard to distros and package management. I'm pretty sure the OP is perfectly capable of defending himself if he feels the need arises.

The OP did in fact respond and provide the requested info, which was why exactly an RPM based distro was preferred (someone else using the machine and it would be easier for the OP to maintain) so the desired result was obtained and nobody's feeling were hurt, except perhaps yours which is kind of funny since not a single comment was directed towards yourself.

It looks like the OP has settled on a choice and proceeded so he got exactly what he asked for, which was some feedback on choices.
I should've said it better. One or two comments questioning rpm as a requirement would've been appropriate. It just got a little over the top. (And not necessarily you, just the deluge of criticism.) The point is that we both agree that no one has to use rpm, but there are other, very good, alternatives. It probably doesn't make that big a difference.

I felt the poster had a real problem that was not related to using rpm.
I do regret the "arguably the best, ever" bit.
 
  


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