LinuxQuestions.org
Help answer threads with 0 replies.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Distributions
User Name
Password
Linux - Distributions This forum is for Distribution specific questions.
Red Hat, Slackware, Debian, Novell, LFS, Mandriva, Ubuntu, Fedora - the list goes on and on... Note: An (*) indicates there is no official participation from that distribution here at LQ.

Notices

Reply
 
Search this Thread
Old 04-27-2005, 12:51 PM   #1
07mackenzie
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 94

Rep: Reputation: 15
Fedora Core 3 Too Slow...


I am wondering what distro of linux would work best on my PC. It is a 500MhZ P3 Processor with 512MB RAM, a 10GB Hard drive, and a pretty bad video card.

Fedora core 3 ran pretty slowly on the computer so I'm looking for a distro that might work a bit better for my computer. Any reccommendations? It doesn't have to have a big memory using desktop environment, although the option of using KDE and Gnome would be nice.

Thanks!
 
Old 04-27-2005, 01:29 PM   #2
acid_kewpie
Moderator
 
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Distribution: Gentoo, RHEL, Fedora, Centos
Posts: 43,415

Rep: Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968
it's not FC3 that's slow... it's KDE or Gnome... don't blame something that's not at fault!
 
Old 04-27-2005, 04:51 PM   #3
winsnomore
Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: USA
Distribution: #1 PCLinuxOS -- for laughs -> Ubuntu, Suse, Mepis
Posts: 315

Rep: Reputation: 31
No .. I am not sure that' the only reason. Yes KDE and Gnome are both bloated .. you can use fluxbox or ICEWM and live in the past, but they do work :-))
Other quiet significant reason is some distro's are optimized for 686 arch ... and others stay with the basc 386 .. that does cause some performance pentalty.
I have given up on FC .. I used FC1 and FC2 .. they were VERY both slow, though I never confirmed this, but I was told that even the kernel code in FC is compiled with
-g option .. as are most of packages .. that makes every thing run like a dog . .(or a bitch if you prefer).
Gentoo can be comipled on your machine .. and could be faster but it's a hassle to maintain.
Try Arch or Vector .. or plain Debian .. they will all be better than FC .. They all have some extra work to be done, Arch with some hardware detection and package management, Vector I have never tried .. but it's a gentoo flavor I think , and Debian Sarge could be used out of the box .. but it's setup is still command line based.
Even Suse is faster than FC, I never could like Mandrake.
 
Old 04-27-2005, 04:57 PM   #4
winsnomore
Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: USA
Distribution: #1 PCLinuxOS -- for laughs -> Ubuntu, Suse, Mepis
Posts: 315

Rep: Reputation: 31
Oh ,.. I forgot to mention CentOS .. if you really like FC .. CentOS is surely at lest 40% faster on machine .. (compare to FC !!!)
it's a copy of RHEL 4.0 .. and there are other flavors like Whtebox and one more I forget the name of .

I like CentOS .. for two reasons .. 1) you can get EVERYthing for it. 2) .. it's put together nicely (it's red hat .. so things are pretty clean).
 
Old 04-27-2005, 04:59 PM   #5
reddazz
Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: N. E. England
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, Debian
Posts: 16,298

Rep: Reputation: 73
You need to disable services that you don't use.
 
Old 04-27-2005, 05:09 PM   #6
JSpired
Member
 
Registered: Sep 2003
Distribution: Slackware, Suse 9.2
Posts: 565

Rep: Reputation: 30
Quote:
Originally posted by reddazz
You need to disable services that you don't use.
This would be my suggestion, as well!
 
Old 04-27-2005, 05:51 PM   #7
acid_kewpie
Moderator
 
Registered: Jun 2001
Location: UK
Distribution: Gentoo, RHEL, Fedora, Centos
Posts: 43,415

Rep: Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968Reputation: 1968
centos will not run ANY faster than fedora... not at all.
 
Old 04-27-2005, 06:06 PM   #8
07mackenzie
Member
 
Registered: Aug 2004
Posts: 94

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 15
Thanks for all of the replies! I am considering Slackware or Debian. I am looking for a distro that doesn't use a whole lot of resources and also works well for new linux users. Also, do either of these have a graphical based installation or are they both text?

Thanks!
 
Old 04-27-2005, 06:24 PM   #9
reddazz
Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: N. E. England
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, Debian
Posts: 16,298

Rep: Reputation: 73
Slackware and Debian use text only installers. As for a ditro that doesn't use up many resources, Fedora could have been the same if you disabled services that you don't use. A few minutes spent tweaking your distro I all you need to do.
 
Old 04-27-2005, 07:07 PM   #10
winsnomore
Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: USA
Distribution: #1 PCLinuxOS -- for laughs -> Ubuntu, Suse, Mepis
Posts: 315

Rep: Reputation: 31
Could someone explain to me how by disabling some services you will get a "faster" response.
The services you are not using take miniscule amount of CPU time .. if any, I have rarely seen my machine use swap (unless I am compiling something or other "non-standard" things) so they don't really contribute to extar disk activity ..I have heard this argument before .. but I can't jreally find no reason for this reasoning .. enlighten me !!

I couldn't install FC3 on my machine (installer bug) .. but am quiet convinced that RHEL is a cleaner & most likely a faster version of the code. FC is really a "beta" for the RHEL and they certainly use it get test cycles on the upcoming release.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 04:09 AM   #11
reddazz
Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: N. E. England
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, Debian
Posts: 16,298

Rep: Reputation: 73
When you start services that you don't need, there is ram and other system resources being unnecessarily used. in a system where you are low on ram, then your system may become sluggish especially if you then decide to use a DE such as GNOME or KDE. You system also boots up slower if you have a lot of services to start.

I use CentOS 4 and I still disable services that I don't need even though I have 512MB or ram. This is good for conserving system resources as well as for security reasons, because you reduce the number of "loop holes" that a cracker can use to break into your system.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 04:18 AM   #12
coldsalmon
Member
 
Registered: Mar 2005
Location: USA
Distribution: Kubuntu Breezy
Posts: 79

Rep: Reputation: 15
Maybe I'm just old and crusty (I'm 22 years old), but I found the Slackware and Debian installers to be much easier than the Fedora Anaconda installer. Multiple menus and submenus on a page with forward and back buttons and radio buttons and checkboxes tend to confuse me. Debian was just (OK) and (Cancel) and (Back), doing one thing at a time. The only time I ever made a mistake with an install was with FC4, when I accidentally overwrote my MBR, which I guess is my fault, but I never did that with any other installer. Does anybody else feel the same way? Please don't flame me if you love Anaconda or you think I'm stupid.

--C
 
Old 04-28-2005, 07:23 AM   #13
reddazz
Guru
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: N. E. England
Distribution: Fedora, CentOS, Debian
Posts: 16,298

Rep: Reputation: 73
I agree with you, Slackwares installation maybe text based but its just as good as the gui ones. I feel the same for the new Debian installer and FreeBSD's sysinstall. I think some people associate anything textmode with complexity so get put off by distros hat use them.
 
Old 04-28-2005, 10:13 PM   #14
winsnomore
Member
 
Registered: May 2004
Location: USA
Distribution: #1 PCLinuxOS -- for laughs -> Ubuntu, Suse, Mepis
Posts: 315

Rep: Reputation: 31
reddazz .. you seem to gloss over the fact that your ram based argument only applies when you actually start using swap space.
If you aren't using swap then your system essentially is all incore and whethere some service you don't use is using the memory or noone is using the memory the result is same .. you have free ram.
As I have said before ... I can count on one hand when I EVER used the swap space .. (huge .. huge compiles ) normally this doesn't matter. The only difference in performance is what compiple ootions were used .. and in that FC1/2/3 are pretty bad.
 
Old 05-04-2005, 05:16 PM   #15
banzai_slr
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: May 2005
Location: South Africa
Distribution: Fedora, Gentoo, CentOS & Solaris
Posts: 19

Rep: Reputation: 0
Quote:
Originally posted by winsnomore
Other quiet significant reason is some distro's are optimized for 686 arch ... and others stay with the basc 386 .. that does cause some performance pentalty.
I read an interesting thread on the RedHat site a little while back that seems to disprove this theory. If only I had kept the link to the thread.....
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slow Connection on Fedora Core 3 RAMMS+EIN Linux - Networking 1 04-29-2005 06:51 PM
X under Fedora Core 3 is slow legolin Linux - Software 5 04-22-2005 04:42 AM
Fedora Core 3 - Browser Really Slow wfischer Linux - Networking 3 12-22-2004 08:14 AM
Linux (fedora core 2) being slow NewbGhostShells Linux - Newbie 18 08-27-2004 01:56 AM
Fedora Core 2 - Internet is slow, why? ExTerminator Linux - Networking 6 07-05-2004 12:36 PM


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:24 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
identi.ca: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration