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Old 10-26-2006, 12:04 PM   #1
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Which media player ?????


Does anyone have any idea what media player I might use to look at this URL http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/u...rm_6084128.stm
???

TVM

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p.s. and yes I did have a look at google to see if that'd give me any ideas, but nothing sprang to mind.
 
Old 10-26-2006, 12:49 PM   #2
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Real Player.
 
Old 10-26-2006, 01:38 PM   #3
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Real Player.
Which I tried and it gave me an error - linking to the "your media player is out of date" page. So I wonder if I'm missing something then ???

regards

John
 
Old 10-26-2006, 11:38 PM   #4
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can try clicking on that button and choose playing with windows media player ...

should be able to work if your codec installation for mplayer/xine is ok ...

reference :: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gam...-rm-files.html


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Old 10-27-2006, 06:59 AM   #5
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RealPlayer 10.x works fine for me. What version are you running?
 
Old 10-27-2006, 07:21 AM   #6
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can try clicking on that button and choose playing with windows media player ...

should be able to work if your codec installation for mplayer/xine is ok ...

reference :: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/gam...-rm-files.html


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Ha ha! I'll try that and see what I get alred, I hadn't thought of trying that.
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RealPlayer 10.x works fine for me. What version are you running?
It shows as 10.0.7.785 (gold). I wonder if theres some sort of plugin for it to make it play .stm files directly then ??? (and yes it's the one that installed via my Kanotix).

regards

John
 
Old 10-28-2006, 01:44 AM   #7
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had just downloaded realplayer 10.0.8.805 ... able to play ram files embedded in my browser ...

>> "I wonder if theres some sort of plugin for it to make it play .stm files directly then ??? "

no idea about the plugins for stm files but for the time being you can try to do a text search of " .ram " within a stm file and open the url directly with realplayer ...


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Old 10-28-2006, 02:40 AM   #8
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download : http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/new...00_16x9_bb.ram
and play with Real Player. I guess it should work. Even this doesn't work then its a problem with your Real Player.
 
Old 10-28-2006, 02:47 AM   #9
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Plays fine here with Firefox and the Mplayer plug-in + codecs.
 
Old 10-28-2006, 06:16 AM   #10
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had just downloaded realplayer 10.0.8.805 ... able to play ram files embedded in my browser ...

>> "I wonder if theres some sort of plugin for it to make it play .stm files directly then ??? "

no idea about the plugins for stm files but for the time being you can try to do a text search of " .ram " within a stm file and open the url directly with realplayer ...


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So does that mean that the .ram stuff is contained withing the original .stm link obtained from the BBC ? Plus as far as I can tell, I have the latest version available through the debian testing/unstable package resources (I run my updater weekly, so it may well be that if it's only just out, that it'll be there next weekend).

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download : http://news.bbc.co.uk/media/avdb/new...00_16x9_bb.ram
and play with Real Player. I guess it should work. Even this doesn't work then its a problem with your Real Player.
Thanks very much, it opened realplayer almost immediately that the download finished.

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Plays fine here with Firefox and the Mplayer plug-in + codecs.
Hum? Mplayer is my prefered media player, especially if I get the firefox plugin/extension/whatever it is. Which means that I'll have to go digging to find out how to change the default media player, as it's currently set to use kaffeine - which works well for the most part, with the various codecs i.e. .wmv, mpg/mpeg, etc etc.

Bit of a shame that realplayer seems to show so many minor issues though, I know some don't like the fact that it's proprietary, but it does seem a good "bit of kit", when it works.

regards

John
 
Old 10-28-2006, 12:27 PM   #11
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>> "So does that mean that the .ram stuff is contained withing the original .stm link obtained from the BBC ? Plus as far as I can tell, I have the latest version available through the debian testing/unstable package resources (I run my updater weekly, so it may well be that if it's only just out, that it'll be there next weekend)."

i normally get "excited" when i see a "bin" installation file for whatever application and the realplayer installation even ask whether we want it to create sym link for direct executions regardless of which current directory we are in , which i think is a good thing ... btw ... there is even a helix which makes me feels that i'm actually clueless about the realplayer issue ...

as for stm files(taken as an example from your link) , you can try open it with a text editor as pure text format ... heck , there are even files within ram files , rtsp things which mplayer(probably xine too) can work on them easily i guess ...

hmm ... seems that with linux media players we can work on every media formats , so i think media is a non-issue for linux nowaday ...



//btw ... this is the first time i play with stm/ram files and realplayer , so thank you for showing the way to them ... ^_^


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Old 10-29-2006, 12:40 PM   #12
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>> "So does that mean that the .ram stuff is contained withing the original .stm link obtained from the BBC ? Plus as far as I can tell, I have the latest version available through the debian testing/unstable package resources (I run my updater weekly, so it may well be that if it's only just out, that it'll be there next weekend)."

i normally get "excited" when i see a "bin" installation file for whatever application and the realplayer installation even ask whether we want it to create sym link for direct executions regardless of which current directory we are in , which i think is a good thing ... btw ... there is even a helix which makes me feels that i'm actually clueless about the realplayer issue ...

as for stm files(taken as an example from your link) , you can try open it with a text editor as pure text format ... heck , there are even files within ram files , rtsp things which mplayer(probably xine too) can work on them easily i guess ...

hmm ... seems that with linux media players we can work on every media formats , so i think media is a non-issue for linux nowaday ...



//btw ... this is the first time i play with stm/ram files and realplayer , so thank you for showing the way to them ... ^_^


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Moaned at the BBC, and they sent this, rather limp, reply

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Thank you for your e-mail to BBC Information.

I understand that you are disappointed to find the news reports are not available for every computer owner to access.

When the BBC first wanted to launch audio and video on its website, 'streaming' technology was fairly new and, at the time, RealPlayer was predominantly used. Consequently we entered into an agreement with Real to provide the software (for free) to users of the BBC site.

Since that time, streaming has become more popular and the number of applications using streaming has increased, including video streaming on our broadband site. As a result, you and other users have asked that we consider supporting other software. The issue faced by the BBC is that we must add infrastructure for each type of software supported, and increasing the number of software applications means an increased cost to license fee payers. We are constantly looking to strike a balance between what our viewers and listeners would like and spending the licence fee wisely.

Having said that, we appreciate that the current situation is not ideal. Indeed, we are currently offering the content of our 'Digital Only' radio channels, and most of our News and Sport clips and streams on both Real and Windows Media Player. Regrettably, due to the considerable amount of content we offer, we currently cannot offer this across the board.

We have ensured that versions of Real player are available as free downloads for virtually all types of hardware and operating systems (Windows, Mac, Linux and more), so that everyone can have access to our content regardless of the equipment that they choose to use.

For your information, we conduct ongoing feedback reviews into what software and applications we use across the BBC site. Doing so ensures that we listen to what our audience wants and your feedback will be used as part of this process.

Whilst I realise this is not very helpful in the short-term, I hope it goes some way to assuring you that we are taking your feedback seriously. We ask that you bear with us, as we hope to offer more content across more platforms in the not-too-distant future.

Thank you, once again, for taking the time to contact the BBC with the strength of your views.

Regards
The rubbish about streaming, is just that IMO. It could just as easily be posted as an mpeg, so that the rest of the world can view it without having to "jump through hoops". I still didn't manage to work out where duryodhan got the url for the .ram file (unless it was contained within the .stm alred).

all rather curious, because my system is perfectly happy to play other streams.

regards

John
 
Old 10-29-2006, 01:53 PM   #13
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normally you can try using ' wget <filename> ' which in your case is that stm file you posted , open it as plain text file ... get that ram file(actually an url location ) and play directly with your realplayer ... should be ok ...

as for "rtsp://" location within your ram file , you can play it with mplayer ...

ofcourse , i'm not sure whether this is the proper way to do it ... probably you can check and get help with your browser extensions/widgets if your browser cant handle this media file directly ... or maybe there are other ways to handle them "seemlessly" which i wouldnt know ...


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