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CamTheSaxMan 11-12-2013 05:29 PM

Where do I find the Compiz burn effect?
 
Does anyone know how to get the Compiz burn effect? Half of the Compiz animations that used to be available are now missing. The only distro that I've been able to use the burn effect on is Cylon Linux because it's available and enabled by default. I really want to have this on Ubuntu and Linux Mint, but it doesn't seem to be available. Any ideas? I really want my windows to burst into flames when I close them!

fenario 11-15-2013 02:36 AM

Hi Cam

In the fusion icon at settings manager
effects > paint fire on the screen
you can check it and click on it
there is the initiate and clear key combinations
and you can enable initiation there
they are disabled by default

Is this what you're after?
perhaps not as I vaguely remember a much grander effect

fenario 11-15-2013 02:43 AM

Sorry. mate
I just found what you want.
In the fusion icon at settings manager > Effects > Animations >
Close Animation > Animation Selection click on the first one
In the pop-up window > Close Effect choose: Burn
The timing can be increased for longer enjoyment.

Animations Add-on has to be enabled as well.

Enjoy

CamTheSaxMan 11-15-2013 11:02 PM

That's exactly what I did! There are a few animations, but no burn effect. The only distro that I can get the burn effect on is Cylon, which I had downloaded a while back. Was this thing just discontinued?

fenario 11-16-2013 06:13 PM

the compiz version I use is 0.9.7.12
it is from the ubuntu 12.04 precise-updates repository
I have folowing files installed that would contain the burn effect:
compiz-plugins
compiz-plugins-default
compiz-plugins-extra
compiz-plugins-main
compiz-plugins-main-default
animations and animation add-on are both enabled

if you have a newer version of ubuntu it may well be different
the latest version now is: 0.9.10
perhaps you could downgrade to the precise version
libdecorations0 needs also downgrading and possibly some others as well

it had happened before that I needed to downgrade to a previous version
of compiz 0.8.4 because something was stuffed up with the shipped one,
but this version 0.9.7.12 is all good.
first: all the compiz related files need to be un-installed
then all the downgrades need to be installed one by one
to find out what else needs downgrading
a warning though: dependency hell will rob your time in working it all out
the downgrading of some common lib files may un-install other apps as well
so after wasting a lot of time you may still end up in a dead end street

good luck

fenario 11-16-2013 06:18 PM

a good starting point to find these files is:
http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/pm/compiz
there is a search field at the top of the page
use the Package Search tab to start with

CamTheSaxMan 11-16-2013 07:45 PM

Thanks, I'll try that out.

Awww... the website didn't recognize that I sent that last post from my Wii (lol).

CamTheSaxMan 11-17-2013 02:54 PM

Alright, I was able to get it working on Ubuntu 12.04 (Virtual Machine) after reinstalling the packages. I'm still trying to get it in Linux Mint 15 Xfce, my main distro, but I only have the raring repositories. What is the URL of that precise-updates repository you mentioned so I can add it to Synaptic Package Manager?

fenario 11-17-2013 05:24 PM

Hi Cam

OK the entry in /etc/apt/sources.list in my case for Australia would be:

deb http://mirror.internode.on.net/pub/ubuntu/ubuntu/ precise-updates main universe

as most of the packages for compiz are in the main section and some extras in the universe section.

This may cause some suggested updates if the mint versions are different. It would be wise to ignore those updates as they may cause chaos as I experienced with Knoppix 7; and that without adding any repos at all. In fact once you have the compiz packages you could disable this repository again by adding # in front of the line.

There are another 300+ repository mirrors around the world and some may be speedier for you. Where are you based at? And an unrelated question; do you play the saxophone? If so call in at Rylstone, NSW, Australia and ask for Rolf if you happen to be nearby.

It's very curious that re-installing the same compiz packages would make the burn effect possible. I'm a real compiz fan, so much that I made up a new computer with dual core intel CPU, 8 GB RAM and SSD on a mini-PC mother board. Wow, what a difference to my 11 year old laptop; ever so snappy now.

I got inspired to use the burn effect myself now. Thanks for the "suggestion". I enjoy it. Let me know how you're going with mint.

CamTheSaxMan 11-18-2013 08:07 PM

I tried adding that repository and some of the Ubuntu precise repositories, but I think I severely stuffed up my system. Synaptic package manager kept comming up with errors about not finding any packages. I tried to load the default repo list into /etc/apt/sources.list to get synaptic working again, but this did not fix anything. When I tried to open up Synaptic, it would just close right away. Software Manager doesn't open up at all. I also just got this serious login bug again that locks me out of my desktop. When I get to the login screen, I choose my username, type in my password, and press Enter. The desktop starts to load, but then returns to the login screen after a second. I've tried starting X from the tty, but to no effect. I've had this bug before, but it went away on its own somehow. Do you know how I can fix all of this? My system is so stuffed up, it's unusable! Mint 15's stability is so awful it's making me think about downgrading! I just don't know what it is with me and this burn effect. I just love it so much seeing windows burn up!

Yes, I do play saxophone, but I live in the U.S. I have a YouTube channel, but I only have one video here of me playing for a friend's wedding. I might upload more videos later.

fenario 11-20-2013 02:33 AM

Yes, the warning was there. Mint is a mix of Debian derived and in-house software and I can see the risk in that. It looks like mint doesn't tolerate any outside repos. I can't help you with this mix up; seems too many issues. If that happened to me I would not waste a second trying to fix anything. I would use a puppy CD and recover any valuable data, then wipe it all out and start again installing something different.
I use Ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not interested in updating to any of the newer versions. This has long term support LTS. In April 2014 there will be the next LTS 14.04. I spent a lot of time tweaking my system to come close to the gnome 2 desktop, similar to mate. It's called gnome classic or gnome-session-fallback. I made an ISO that will fit on a 4 GB flashdrive and it is available at :
https://disk.yandex.com/public/?hash...g%3D&locale=en
You also need to read Installation-Graphics-and-Tweaks.txt before the installation.
And the present versions is called 4CLIX-7.1.4.1 for 64-bit PCs.
Some of my blogs had been published on Dark Ducks website; one of them is at:
http://linuxblog.darkduck.com/2013/1...tribution.html
Perhaps you like to try out 4CLIX or even install it? (4 Cs are: Classic gnome, compiz, cairo-dock and conky and LIX is short for Linux)
Sorry about mint going rotten on you.
cheers Rolf

CamTheSaxMan 11-20-2013 10:06 AM

Thanks, I'll definitely try those. I like the Gnome 2 desktop a lot. I think I'm just going to backup, wipe, and downgrade to Mint 13 LTS which seems like it will be a great deal more stable than 15 and will be supported all the way up to April 2017. It also uses the "precise" repositories so I can get my burn effect :D. Thanks for all your help. I really appreciate it. You seem to know a lot about this stuff!

fenario 11-22-2013 01:05 AM

I agree the gnome 2 desktop is my favourite too. You know there is no shame in downgrading. In fact it is a smart thing to do.
Just imagine what pressure these developers have in continuously having to create a new version of an OS. Even Microsoft are bringing out new versions more often then before.
XP was a great OS and so is 7, whereas Vista was a lemon and many were unhappy with the way 8 went and now so shortly after they've done 8.1. So it is happening in the commercial world too. But MS beside; most of all I'm a dedicated Linux fan and a lot I know is from other Tux nerds on forums like this one. Many thanks to all the help I got over the years. Some real bad frustrations were alleviated that way.
Any other issues you have just ask; maybe I or others can help you again.
greetings
Rolf

descendant_command 11-22-2013 01:19 AM

Enjoy it('s corpse) while you can.
Compiz is dead.
https://answers.launchpad.net/compiz/+question/235670

fenario 11-22-2013 02:14 AM

That's another good reason why not upgrading to newer OS versions. I use apt-mirror to download the whole precise repository to an external HDD; dozens of gigabytes of software at my fingertips. And when precise is dead I can still install it's software.
compiz is very demanding and it needs a good computer and graphics card to run it well. As mentioned above I invested in a new computer to enjoy apps like compiz. I also love a burning window like camthesaxman.

CamTheSaxMan 11-23-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by descendant_command (Post 5068759)
Enjoy it('s corpse) while you can.
Compiz is dead.
https://answers.launchpad.net/compiz/+question/235670

I wouldn't say that Compiz is dead. However, the plugin containing the extra animations (such as burn and explode) are now a transitional dummy package as of Ubuntu 12.10. I don't know if it's just temporarily unsupported or permanently discontinued. Just wiped my HDD and reinstalled Windows 7 and Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon, and I'm lovin' it!:D
I've actually got Compiz effects to work on a netbook (Asus EeePC 1000HD). Desktop cube and animations worked, only using about 20% of the CPU, but the 3d rendering was off a bit.
On a side note, I've noticed that MS seems to follow a pattern with their releases.
2000 - good
Me - sucks
XP - good
Vista - sucks
7 - good
8 - sucks

fenario 11-23-2013 07:03 PM

I'm glad it all worked out for you now. It doesn't matter if the development of compiz is dead; as long as you have a version that works for you. Have a look into the apt-mirror application. If you have unlimited download quota you could also download the whole mint 13 and related repositories for the future when it isn't supported any-more. You could then enter your local repository into /etc/apt/sources.list; for example in my case this would be:

deb file:///media/DATA-FAT32/UbuntuRepos/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main restricted multiverse universe
deb file:///media/DATA-FAT32/UbuntuRepos/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-updates main restricted multiverse universe
deb file:///media/DATA-FAT32/UbuntuRepos/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-backports main restricted multiverse universe
deb file:///media/DATA-FAT32/UbuntuRepos/mirror/archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise-security main restricted multiverse universe
deb file:///media/DATA-FAT32/UbuntuRepos/mirror/archive.canonical.com/ubuntu precise partner
deb file:///media/DATA-FAT32/UbuntuRepos/mirror/extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu precise main

and some others and so create an off-line sources list
Actually new versions don't have that many worthwhile innovations.

It is curious how MS, as you noticed too, alternates between lemon-sucks (yuck) and good ones. Consumers are quite vocal these days with all the forums around and it seems MS takes notice. It also happened with Ubuntu when Unity became the default desktop. A lot of protest, then the creation of the mate-desktop and Ubuntu's gnome-session-fallback to imitate the gnome 2 desktop.

alderran 04-29-2014 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CamTheSaxMan (Post 5069570)
I wouldn't say that Compiz is dead. However, the plugin containing the extra animations (such as burn and explode) are now a transitional dummy package as of Ubuntu 12.10. I don't know if it's just temporarily unsupported or permanently discontinued. Just wiped my HDD and reinstalled Windows 7 and Linux Mint 13 Cinnamon, and I'm lovin' it!:D
I've actually got Compiz effects to work on a netbook (Asus EeePC 1000HD). Desktop cube and animations worked, only using about 20% of the CPU, but the 3d rendering was off a bit.
On a side note, I've noticed that MS seems to follow a pattern with their releases.
2000 - good
Me - sucks
XP - good
Vista - sucks
7 - good
8 - sucks

There is very little difference between windows vista and windows 7. I really can't get past the stupidity of one being labeled suck and the other good when the only difference is a slight tone down in UAC prompts and the addition of a task bar. We are talking ver 6 to 6.1

Windows 8 once you get used to it the fact that it is lightning fast compared to Win 7 makes up for the change in UI. Although like I say once you get used to it and customize your desktop it can be more productive than win 7

CamTheSaxMan 04-29-2014 12:04 PM

I do find a pretty big difference between Windows 7 and Vista. Not in terms of the user interface, but in performance. My laptop originally had Vista. The thing took 40 seconds to boot up, programs and folders took a long time to open up, and generally everything lagged. When I upgraded to Windows 7, it was fast and responsive. There are ways to customize Windows 8, but 7 is already pretty lightning fast to me and I don't want to buy an upgrade.

Anyway, this is a Linux forum, so as far as Linux goes, I recommend just sticking with Ubuntu 12.04 and never upgrading. I've seen lots of programs lose support when I installed 13.10, mainly Jupiter, Unity 2D, the Compiz effects which this thread is about, and 12.04 is way faster than newer releases.

But I'm going back to the faster, more stable Windows. Linux just doesn't cut it with stuff crashing and freezing all the time.

alderran 04-29-2014 06:06 PM

I use windows at work and linux at home. I have been using ubuntu 14.04 since it was released. Albeit not very long but so far it's been very stable.

At work I put windows 8 on my desktop. It annoyed me so I went back to windows 7, but then I noticed how friggin slow windows 7 is. Not just booting which has to take 4 times as long but everything is slower. Opening programs is much slower. Dual monitor support isn't as good. Remoting into it isn't as good. I like the file history feature in windows 8. A lot of little things, but the main one is win8 is blazing fast and win 7 is a slug

fenario 05-02-2014 10:01 PM

compiz still going
 
So now we know it. Compiz is still going in Trusty. But no burn effect. That is a matter of Precise or earlier.
Also the explode effect is gone. Just now as we have cards that can handle windy candy we get them dropped??
Wobbly windows, glide and zoom still work; all helping to soften the desktop experience. At least!


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