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Old 02-01-2011, 04:46 PM   #1
Skaperen
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When I do a reply in Thunderbird, the composer inserts the quoted message, and puts the cursor at the bottom. I need to have this at the top because that is the standard in most business communication (yes, despite it making less sense). Since 97% of my email involves that, it would save a lot of work if I could set the composer to do it that way. Evolution defaulted that way. I don't mind the different default, but I do want to change it.
 
Old 02-01-2011, 05:17 PM   #2
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I need to have this at the top because that is the standard in most business communication
Well this is not a standard, rather bad habit. Recently I got a mail from my boss with his some long conversation with client, of course, both with top-posting and without cutting quotations, with message: "Read from beginning what we talking about and do it" - this was a nightmare, scrolling from bottom to top searching begin of post and reading top to bottom, over and over. It would consume much less my time if were properly citated.

Anyway, if you wish you can change this behavior in menu Edit or Tools, next "Account configuration" and for every account select "Creating", there is a second checkbox "Automaticaly quote orginal message" and choose appropriate option from drop down list. (these names can be little different as I have non english version)

P.S. from wikipedia: top-posting

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?

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Old 02-02-2011, 11:15 AM   #3
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Well this is not a standard, rather bad habit. Recently I got a mail from my boss with his some long conversation with client, of course, both with top-posting and without cutting quotations, with message: "Read from beginning what we talking about and do it" - this was a nightmare, scrolling from bottom to top searching begin of post and reading top to bottom, over and over. It would consume much less my time if were properly citated.

Anyway, if you wish you can change this behavior in menu Edit or Tools, next "Account configuration" and for every account select "Creating", there is a second checkbox "Automaticaly quote orginal message" and choose appropriate option from drop down list. (these names can be little different as I have non english version)

P.S. from wikipedia: top-posting

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing in e-mail?
I don't disagree. But it is, nevertheless, the wide-spread defacto standard of business email. Send a reply that has more than a page of quoting (and sometimes that is needed), with a bottom reply, and you get back a "why didn't you say anything" response.

Evolution did this by default. I'm not going to switch back to see if it had a way to change. And I am not arguing to change the default. I just want to change it as a preference. From my work email address, this is the way I need to do it, and having to change back to the top manually is annoying.

For my home email, I won't be doing it. And because this turns out to be a "per account" setting, I can actually avoid doing this for the email address I occasionally use for open source community email ... and thus have the right settings in the right place.

But I would argue that the truly proper way to quote-post is to always trim to just enough to make reference ... not to archive the whole thread ... and of course "post under" per topic. That has to be done manually.

Thanks.

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