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Old 04-30-2011, 12:13 AM   #1
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Thumbs down Reverting back to Ubuntu 10.10


So I updated to Ubuntu 10.14, and I don't like it.
It's scary and confusing and I don't like it.

I want to revert to Ubuntu 10.10 and keep all my documents and settings as they were before.

I still have the Ubuntu 10.10 Instillation CD if it's needed.

But Same Documents And Settings As I Had In 10.10...
 
Old 04-30-2011, 12:18 AM   #2
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If you are using Unity you can use Gnome if you want to and keep all your old settings as they were. Having said that Ubuntu probably wont support Gnome after 11.04 (support ends October 2012) so if you are going to revert back to 10.10 you may want to consider Debian 6 (Squeeze) which will be supported for at least 2 years till 2013-2014. Ubuntu 10.10 wont be supported after April 2012.

Just out of interest, have you posted this on UbuntuForums and let them know how you feel?

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Old 04-30-2011, 12:26 AM   #3
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This doesn't exactly answer my question.

I'm pretty new to Linux in general and only have Ubuntu.
 
Old 04-30-2011, 12:44 AM   #4
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This doesn't exactly answer my question.

I'm pretty new to Linux in general and only have Ubuntu.
Actually it does and it gives you some options.

1. Ubuntu 11.04 uses Unity by default, if this is what you don't like you can actually use Gnome and still be in 11.04. Gnome however will not be supported, nor will 11.04, after October 2012.
2. If you revert back to 10.10 it will only be supported until April 2012 so you will be changing distros or DEs (Desktop Environments) sometime soon if you stick with Ubuntu.
3. If it is Gnome that you prefer you can move to Debian 6 (Squeeze) and use Gnome. It will be supported until at least February 2013-2014.

So you have 3 options, stay on 11.04, revert back to 10.10, or move to Debian 6. Either way you don't have to loose any settings if you set it up with a separate /home partition.
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:17 AM   #5
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k3lt01 didn't said that on the Login Screen there's an option to choose GNOME Classic I believe it's called, which will give the same look and feel of 10.10, maybe you'll be OK with that.
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 03:36 AM   #6
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@ alan_ri- nice catch, I'm guessing that k3lt01 just forgot that detail. I'm pretty sure hes changed desktop from the login screen so many times its 2nd nature, and its an easy detail to forget.

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Just out of interest, have you posted this on UbuntuForums and let them know how you feel?
Probably not a bad idea, not that canonical pays any attention to the ubuntu forums (unless of course its in support of canonical). From what I've seen there lately, saying anything bad about uinty will just get you lots of 'you need to give it time', 'unity is great' etc. posts, with an undercurrent of 'shut up and be thankful'.
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 04:16 AM   #7
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My apologies to the OP I slipped into an alternate reality for a bit and didn't think that you wouldn't know how to switch over from Unity to Gnome. Sometimes I'm a dolt, not very humble, and a pain in the rear end

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k3lt01 didn't said that on the Login Screen there's an option to choose GNOME Classic I believe it's called, which will give the same look and feel of 10.10, maybe you'll be OK with that.
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@ alan_ri- nice catch, I'm guessing that k3lt01 just forgot that detail. I'm pretty sure hes changed desktop from the login screen so many times its 2nd nature, and its an easy detail to forget.
MyBad I'm a Richard Cranium sometimes.

When I used to use Ubuntu I would switch to FluxBox when I want simplicity and available resources. Now I'm on Debian I don't have to cause Debian isn't a resource hog but that's beside the point. In all honesty it's not that I even forgot I just didn't think about it. Give me a slap next time I'm an idiot ok

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Probably not a bad idea, not that canonical pays any attention to the ubuntu forums (unless of course its in support of canonical). From what I've seen there lately, saying anything bad about uinty will just get you lots of 'you need to give it time', 'unity is great' etc. posts, with an undercurrent of 'shut up and be thankful'.
Yeah I know but surely they have to start listening sometime. The fanboy syndrome can't go on for much longer, can it?

Cheers gentlemen
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 01:47 PM   #8
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This doesn't exactly answer my question.

I'm pretty new to Linux in general and only have Ubuntu.

You should try the new GNOME 3 on Ubuntu 11.04

Install GNOME 3 on ubuntu 11.04

Open the terminal and run the following commands

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
sudo apt-get install gnome-shel

That's it! GNOME 3 is now completely installed in your Ubuntu machine. All you have to do now is to reboot your system and choose Ubuntu GNOME Shell Desktop at the login screen.

Enjoy your new GNOME 3 desktop environment!


WARNING: Attention! If you follow this toturial, you'll break your Unity session. There is no downgrading method for now. You've been warned!



Removing GNOME3 and going back to stock 11.04

Following these steps will remove the GNOME3 PPA and revert your packages:

sudo apt-get install ppa-purge
sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3

While downgrading, if aptitude gives the following output:

Leave the following dependencies unresolved:

gnome-control-center-data recommends gnome-control-center (<< 2.91) [...]

Then type this when it asks you to enter yes/no: - gnome-control-center-data (Note the - in the beginning, its important). Then press enter, and then it shouldn't show any packages under Leave the following dependencies unresolved. Type y, and you should soon be downgraded normally to the Ubuntu 11.04 packages.
______________

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Old 04-30-2011, 01:48 PM   #9
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You should give GNOME 3 a try ,it's beautiful, cool & of course works very smooth.

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Old 04-30-2011, 03:20 PM   #10
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You should give GNOME 3 a try ,it's beautiful, cool & of course works very smooth.
Gnome 3 won't work on all hardware and alot of features that are in 2.32 are not in 3. If you rely on some things you are much better off knowing what is available in 3 before you move to it.

Don't get me wrong I like it but it isn't the be all and end all.
 
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:48 PM   #11
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I'm really not too worried about something going unsupported in a year, I'll worry about it then and try the current version then.

I want to install Ubuntu 10.10 and keep the same settings.
If I have to reinstall things, I don't mind if I can sync the installed packages with that Ubuntu One thing I have yet to use...

I only have a few files as I store everything on the hard drive that has Windows XP on it.
 
Old 05-01-2011, 02:10 AM   #12
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My apologies to the OP I slipped into an alternate reality for a bit and didn't think that you wouldn't know how to switch over from Unity to Gnome. Sometimes I'm a dolt, not very humble, and a pain in the rear end

Yeah I know but surely they have to start listening sometime. The fanboy syndrome can't go on for much longer, can it?
Minor ommision, not relly a problem as alan_ri caught it. A easy mistake to make, I know I've doen it in the past. Don't beat yourself up about it....

As for canonical listening, I'd doubt they will start now. If unity totally fails, or a lot of ubuntu users start leaving, maybe they would.

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I'm really not too worried about something going unsupported in a year, I'll worry about it then and try the current version then.
If its unity that you dont like, and you want gnome 2.X then unless canonical really changes policy in the future it will be harder to get gnome 2.X going.

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I want to install Ubuntu 10.10 and keep the same settings.
If I have to reinstall things, I don't mind if I can sync the installed packages with that Ubuntu One thing I have yet to use...
You should be able to just log out, select gnome classic then log back in. You desktop should then be gnome 2.X/gnome 'classic', without reinstalling.
 
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Old 05-01-2011, 05:56 AM   #13
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I want to install Ubuntu 10.10 and keep the same settings.
If I have to reinstall things, I don't mind if I can sync the installed packages with that Ubuntu One thing I have yet to use...

I only have a few files as I store everything on the hard drive that has Windows XP on it.
Downgrade could be very painful experience and it's not recommended and some say it's not even possible from 11.04 to 10.10. As been said, you can switch to GNOME 2 from the Login Screen, it should look like 10.10 and you have newer packages, so I see no reason to downgrade.

Here's what I've found about downgrade in Ubuntu;
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DowngradeHowto
https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu...uestion/139677

And if you want to make GNOME Classic your default session, this is what I've found;
http://www.unixmen.com/linux-tutoria...-natty-narwhal

If you really want 10.10 back, I suggest that you reinstall then.

And about Ubuntu One, there should be no problem with syncing I believe, here's what they say;
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Ubuntu One is your personal cloud. But it's not just about syncing files whether you need to access your contacts, notes or bookmarks from any computer or the web, enjoy your favorite music from a cloud integrated store or stream your entire collection to iPhone and Android mobile phones we've raised the bar on personal clouds.
Here's the site;
https://one.ubuntu.com/
 
Old 05-01-2011, 06:20 AM   #14
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I no longer use Ubuntu because I don't believe the licensing model for Unity reflects what I want.
Ubuntu upgrades have always been problematic - since very early times I have maintained two separate partitions for systems in addition to a separate /home partition. I do full installs into the unused system partition using the /home as common.
This has always allowed seamless updates to new levels, with seamless fallback in case of problems.

Use of a separate /home should hopefully allow you to fallback also.
 
Old 05-01-2011, 04:40 PM   #15
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I've set my default boot as Classic, but now I'm missing the window bar--The thing that has the name and the close buttons on it--because it used to be blended with the start menu.

>.<'

Thoughts or do I need a screenshot or something?
 
  


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