Hello,

Both Openbox and JWM are amazing Window Managers (wm). Both offer great features and are ideally working with Pcmanfm desktop (pcmanfm --desktop --profile linux).

Herewith a possibility to vote for your favorite and to tell other the main reason about your choice.

You may deliberate on memory usage of those two WM, features, support, integration of other desktops and softs,....

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Openbox
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JWM


Have Fun, Xeratux

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I've only tried JWM with Puppy, but Openbox with ArchBang, SalentOS, and Semplice. I found JWM needed far less work to configure, but that may be because Puppy had modified it.

How does one choose between two great WMs? No one can go wrong with either. If I wanted easy access to a lot of theming and configuration tips, it would be OpenBox. For leanness and meanness, JWM. In this case, jwm got my vote.

but there's a limit to what you can configure, and the limit comes much faster than with openbox.
i stopped when i realised i can't really have many keyboard shortcuts for window manipulation, and openbox-like pseudo-tiling (GrowToEdge etc.) is not possible.

don't get me wrong, jwm is indeed lean & mean, but there are a few features i'm not willing to go without.
it could be a good option for "normal people" who will only ever use the mouse to move windows around.

I'm an OpenBox user, and I just spent a couple of hours trying out JWM. Some things I noticed:

• true-transparency provided by terminal emulators like st and terminator (combined with Compton) doesn't work
• Chromium works properly only if you tell it to use the system title bar
• you don't get the "switching to desktop n" OSD that you get in OpenBox

Honestly, I think I've given it enough of a chance at this point.

Been using Puppy Quirky Linux for years. Recently installed Puppy Quirky Xerus Linux and it's the greatest. Now able to install Ubuntu apps, like Firefox (which I need to access bankster web sites). I'm a happy pup.

I prefer FVWM, wich is by far the best window manager, so I didn't vote

In the picture you see Slint64-14.2 with a LXDE desktop using FVWM as window manager and PCManFM as file manager.

PS I am testing LXDE for Slint, but FVWM is already shipped.

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Nice Desktop.

Salut Didier, c'est quoi le nom du programme avec le calendrier en bas a droite?

Salut Xeratul,

C'est Orage, le calendrier de Xfce (mais on peut l'utiliser avec d'autre environnements de bureau).

Try Slint, the installer speaks French (amont other languages), it is fully localized and the support is free and speaks French

I used JWM for years running Puppy on an old computer, but there's not much incentive to use it nowadays. OB is prettier, more themeable, and has lots of themes. JWM only really looks good with a dark grey panel and titlebar... otherwise it looks like Win95. JWM is easier to configure and has a nicer XML format.

LXDE or XFCE on circa 2014 Porteus run just as light as JWM or Openbox/Tint2, around 100MB coldboot and 170MB idle after a few days uptime. There doesn't seem to be any advantage to using either WM unless you're a Puppy or #! fan.

FVWM is taking quite a lot of memory if you would like to have a nice desktop, no?

Not at all, see LXDE in the chart of this post. And FVWM adds almost nothing as by default LXDE runs Openbox. Now if you would run it in KDE (but is it possible?) That would be a completely different story

Openbox is still the half of FVMW, which is pretty much,no?

When you look TWM is only 1.2, and actually it may even be too much on low memory systems.

why dwm is much lighter than mwm?

it's an interesting article, but honestly what does it matter if my wm takes 1 or 20MB of memory?
even if i had only 2GB of RAM, or hell maybe only 1, the real resource hogs are and will alwys be the browsers and ultimately the www of today.
it doesn't matter which wm i use, my browser is always at the top, memory-usage-wise, and the wm doesn't even show up in the top 5.

like i said earlier, ascetism for the sake of ascetism is just as insane as being a shiny-new-stuff addict.

use your memory, instead of hoarding it like a sad old miser.

now performance, otoh, that's important!

Salut Didier, ca fait longtemps que tu fais du Linux?
Regardes celui la, peut etre, t'aime bien, c'est du WM: http://www.home.unix-ag.org/bmeurer/...s/20030324.png