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Old 03-09-2016, 04:04 AM   #1
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Old Newbie; old PC; old multi-boot setup (for the "unclean" chosen few)


Hello, Any...

FYI - MULTI-BOOTING (MY WAY)...

I am a Linux newbie. Well, sort of. I have used Linux on&off since ??-1997-??-ish. (Redhat 2.sthg?, 3.sthg?) Anyway I moved onto Mandrake-7.1 (off mag cover) which never ever completed installing, so I tried Mandrake-7.2 (off mag cover). Wow! So I became spoiled, because I want to work ONLY at the GUI level. I have used CLI (for other Newbies, "Command-Line Interface") but have never - QUITE - got the real hang of it. Way too complex - all those separate directories, and files, and dependencies, and I give up. And what are all those Man pages about? (Need a degree just to find the right Man page, and another degree to read them, and another degree (and a really smart Mate) to understand them! [Got the picture?]

My PC is quite old. A sthg-motherboard with (unused) RAID; Athlon 1GHz 1-core CPU; 786MB RAM; modernish LG LCD screen (so distros often think I have a laptop); an 8MB (4MB-limited) AGP SiS-6326 graphics card (which is a source of much pain); and not much else.

For over a decade my workhorse has been Windows-2000, now with Opera-12.02 & tonnes-of-freeware. That setup has been very economical and has broad variety of capability. However I have relied on that config for way too long. Now I am beginning to understand (from website probs) that the end of that free lunch is nigh. So to develop my Linux skills further I have tried many distros-&-versions - probably one or two hundred I suppose. Some install, but run too slow; most of them crash. (Remember the SiS graphics card?)

I have set up my two IDE HD's thus...

HD-0

MBR - GRUB Legacy 0.97

PRIM...FreeDOS (FAT-16 hidden) (contains: BOOT/menu.lst)
PRIM...Windows-2000 (boot)


HD-1

MBR - DUMMY

PRIM...FreeDOS (hidden)
PRIM...Extended
LOG SWAP
LOG...PUPPY TAHR
LOG...SPACE
LOG...MAGEIA-5 (WOW!)
LOG...currently ROSA-7, but may not survive long
LOG...SPACE
LOG...DATA
LOG...DATA (Win32)
For some time I engaged in tesing various (free) boot-managers, then (despite using Linux for over a decade) I discovered just how good Grub 0.97 is. (All the other (Win) boot-managers let me down for one reason or other.)

Now I boot through Grub-0.97 to any partition.

For years I have been registered at a local Linux Club, and receive emails with discussions about o/s problems, but after asking a forum question or two and getting up to 8 different solutions, I was somewhat disillusioned with Linux open sources. Shortly after I joined the Club, the lead Members left to create their own Linux commercial enterprise, so I became a little disillusioned with Linux open sources. [No; I didn't fart or something, they just left!]

Two distros that installed well on my setup are Mandrake and OpenMandriva - both which I like.

Recently I tested Mageia-5. It installed perfectly first pop; accepts and manages my old/odd hardware really well; and is extremely configurable via GUI. So I use that now, and joined Mageia forum.

Also recently I discovered that whirlpool.net.au has a Linux area so I joined the Whirlpool forum.

Since I will occasionally try out some other distros - although the list of "usables" is diminishing by the 64-bit minute, and crashing by the GPT-EFI-UEFI-#&&*-@@*#$!!! wrinkles - then linuxquestions.org has broader Linux areas, so I have arrived (here)...

Boo!
 
Old 03-09-2016, 12:46 PM   #2
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First of all Welcome Back!

Perhaps of more importance, I see that you, like me, still play with FreeDOS, which BTW includes considerable Linux and Linux-influences. Command Line Linux is just not that different from DOS. There are some excellent books available for those who find man pages a pita. O'Reilly publishes a score of great books but one I found 9and still find) essential is Linux in a Nutshell which is simply a dictionary of command organized both alphabetically and also by type of "job", what they do. It displays all the possible switches and even gives examples of strings of switches. Hopefully you are aware that GUI is very useful for some kinds of work but for others CLI is more powerful and faster. One example would be editing Windows Registry where one wants to delete any reference to an uninstalled app. In GUI this takes forever. In CLI, at least in Linux CLI one single command and DONE! in fractions of a second! This is what awaits you - a combination of both so you can choose for yourself instead of accepting the dictates of Redmond who have a vested interest in keeping users dumb.

I highly recommend LiveCDs which allow one to try out distros with zero commitment or change to your existing system. Like you I started with Mandrake but a system upgrade failure soured me against auto dependency resolving. Thankfully at the time, nearly 20 years ago, I was in the habit of spending a lot of time on IRC and especially in Linux channels so I asked the guys I respected most and nearly all of them recommended Slackware "because it just compiles stuff right". That was just what I wanted to hear. Above al else I wanted stability and reliability and a system that would not try to do stuff for me, constantly underfoot, making problems far more difficult to even discover the source let alone the fix. There are lots of istros and live distros as you can see HERE but I do recommend you give Slackware a try as it is quite unique. It takes care of the majority of dependencies by installing a LOT but all by design to fit smoothly together with the least deviation from Vanilla (which is why "stuff just compiles right"). Unless you choose to install a 3rd party installer it will never assume it or anyone else knows what you want better than you and that is both freedom and great protection.

If you have any interest the new full boat Live version can be found HERE

Whatever you choose, welcome aboard and best wishes
 
Old 03-10-2016, 02:26 AM   #3
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