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mysala 08-27-2007 02:03 AM

MS Office 2003 & Wine
 
I am using Fedora 7 and just installed MS Office 2003 using Wine as root. The installation went flawlessly. The problem is when I try to open one of the MS Office applications, it gave me this dialog box, "Microsoft Office Excell has not been installed for the current user. Please run setup to install the application". Anyone with same problem? TQiAdv!

farslayer 08-27-2007 08:40 AM

That is why there is a commercial derivative of wine called Crossover Office specifically to address business type applications. .. Oh looks like it's been renamed to Crossover Linux..

http://www.codeweavers.com/


Personally I just run OpenOffice on my Linux machines as well as the Windows PC I use at work. I have no troubles viewing documents from coworkers, or creating documents they can read. I just can't bring myself to spend that much money on MS office applications when there are several perfectly usable office solutions for low-cost or free. I'll probably NEVER need all the additional features that are in MS Office, or half the features in OpenOffice for that matter. But at least OpenOffice isn't a new file format with every version.. I can't begin to tell you all the issues that come up from getting documents from Outside our office that no-one can open because they were created with a newer version of office.. what a crock.

AceofSpades19 08-27-2007 01:50 PM

why would you need to use Microsoft office anyway, open office can read ms office files and save in them so there is no need

mysala 08-27-2007 06:03 PM

I want to test whether MS Office 2003 can run smoothly in Linux ... Thereś no point of using Wine if I couldn't use MS apps. By the way, TQ!

p.s; Still, if any other solutions other than Crossover Office, it would be fine for me.

Lsatenstein 08-27-2007 07:36 PM

Why do I use MS-Office 2003
 
I write in two languages -- English and French. (occasionally Spanish)

Before I send an email to a client, I need to insure that the grammar is good. OO does not have a grammar checker. And the spelling checker has many errors. (Accents added where none belong, or vice-versa.)

As French is my second language, I need a good conjugating program. If that is a masculine word, drop the extra E at the end. I need answers to "What accents to the words take...."

When OO provides a comparable grammar checker, and an easy way to work multiple languages in a common document, I will increase my use of it.

One more thing. My MS-word file saves at 79k, but OO saves it as 150k, more than double. That causes problems with some uploads to certain sites that restrict attachments to less than 100k.

Leslie
Montreal

sting01 08-28-2007 02:02 AM

First post here!!

I chooosed Star Office for 2 reasons :

1) I did the tech support in the past for that prog.
2) Star Office is simply the milestone of OOo. Even more, without Star Office, never OOo would have exist.

Anyway there is still problem : the compatibility is not 100%, Using SO or OOo with a winxp machine is fine, but there is still remanent problems with many Linux distib (remenber the Red hat 9.xx or worst the Suze (the release made in 2001).

SO and OOo, at the opposite of any M$ products, need the user to have some knowledges and have him make some tuning of both the soft and the OS. For exemple is no grammar checker exist, why not contribuate to create one? Anyway that kind of tool is possible to do for french (Bled as reference), but for english it could be tricky (aussie english, or red neck english?). Same apply for speeling/usage of words ... " IL a beaucoup de blondes" make sense for a canadian person, but is totally meaningless to a french one. Do you spell it colour or color? I lost a client 2 years ago for that kind of spelling details.

netlogic 08-28-2007 02:21 AM

Open Office for home and work laptop. It is free and it does everything that I want to do. If the client is willing to pay for $400 for an Office 2007 license, I will use it. MsOffice has tons of features that are missing in OpenOffice, but it is $400 for a full version. These days, $400 buys a brand new laptop. Also, using pirated apps at client sites can create an immediate termination. I don't know how much you guys get paid, but $400 is a lot of money to throw away to Bill Gates.

SilentSam 08-28-2007 03:57 AM

I chose OpenOffice mainly for its compatibility. It has a plethora of utilities, as well as language packs in the two languages I use (English/French). It's largest ability to me is it's ability to read and write to multiple file formats, as I have documents in *.wpd, *.doc, and other formats that I would obviously like to have access to without the need for multiple word processors. I also enjoy the fact that I can use OpenOffice regardless of the OS I choose to use. OK, the cost is also incentive...

way3000 08-28-2007 04:45 AM

answer the man
 
I belive what is asked for by the threadstarter is not a debate on what Office program to run. but HOW to run MS office 2003. he askes later on for other programs than crossover linux and people seem to continue the debate. go to your own thread.

I am sorry I have no solution to your problem. I run a dual boot hence I belive that MS office runs best on a MS enviroment. I have my games and stuff there too. but for office work and stuff like that I still use openSUSE 10.2 (hands up)

pakanek 08-28-2007 04:47 AM

And what about Gnome office? AbiWord, GNumeric, Gimp and so on... ?

zridling 08-28-2007 05:32 AM

I use OpenOffice, but bought a couple of licenses to StarOffice to support Sun. I also donate to OpenOffice.org a few times a year. Anything that use ODF is gold.

Homie Bongo 08-28-2007 08:40 AM

Your mother probably hasn't told you never to install Wine apps as root! I don't know if your problem begins here, but I feel there is a problem. Never give a program permission it doesn't need. If you wanted to share the installation among more users I believe there are other ways, such as installing the apps in a shared directory under /home or so.

Have you tried installing it under your account first?

tromboneman 08-28-2007 08:41 AM

zridling: welcome to LQ!

I bought office 97 at a thrift store for $1.29 about a year ago. I use OpenOffice anyway. Sure office 97 is compatible with every office document out there (not counting OOxml), but openoffice is expandable through extensions, it supports odf, and it is just an overall better program. It also has a portable version you can install on a usb drive and work on your odf files on any Windows computer as well. I can't see anyone doing that with MS office. It doesn't has grammar checking though, and none of the grammar checking extensions work very well. They are planning this for version 2.4, if you want to wait.

SilentSam 08-28-2007 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by way3000 (Post 2873135)
I belive what is asked for by the threadstarter is not a debate on what Office program to run. but HOW to run MS office 2003. he askes later on for other programs than crossover linux and people seem to continue the debate. go to your own thread.

Actually, it's also a poll of the best office suite. Relax.

shambler 08-28-2007 10:37 PM

Give me OpenOffice, or give me ... vi
 
I love openoffice, use it on both the primary machine (linux) and on winders. The price is certainly right, and the features are endless.

While MS Word might offer a few more things, the cost of those few more things is just not worth it to me. Most of them I would not use anyway.

The only weakness I have noticed is if I add graphics to an ooo doc, and export it as w2K, the images don't always show up in Word. Not a happy situation if you really do need 100% compatibility. There is a possibility it is related to a word 2000 vs word 2003 incompatibility (of which there are many).

But given any reasonable opportunity, and I'll choose ooo every time.

mysala 08-28-2007 11:08 PM

Re: MS Office '03 & Wine
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Homie Bongo (Post 2873328)
Your mother probably hasn't told you never to install Wine apps as root! I don't know if your problem begins here, but I feel there is a problem. Never give a program permission it doesn't need. If you wanted to share the installation among more users I believe there are other ways, such as installing the apps in a shared directory under /home or so.

Have you tried installing it under your account first?

Before installing MS Office '03 as a root, I installed it as a normal user, but the same problem raised. So, I thought, if I installed it as root, then maybe the problem will be solved. As root, it still raised the same problem... So, anyone adventuring in the same problem?

sriram_16a 09-01-2007 01:08 PM

Ms office has been marked rated by even codeweavers, so better to use ms2000(gold). However, I personally prefer openoffice.
If you dont mind illegal downloading, get codeweavers from torrents. But, ms2000 is bound to work with wine, if you want to be legal, or if you want to use it for ur organisation.

theboss 09-01-2007 02:07 PM

Quote:

I can't begin to tell you all the issues that come up from getting documents from Outside our office that no-one can open because they were created with a newer version of office.. what a crock.
A free plugin from M$ will enable old version to open newer formats.

An average joe hardly consumes 10% of office features the rest are junk installed on your pc.

kcirick 09-01-2007 08:53 PM

My choice of office suite would be none of the mentioned. I actually like to use Google Doc (Word processor and Spreadsheet). Of course it doesn't have database and presentation, but for everything else, it's all one needs!

tromboneman 09-02-2007 06:49 AM

kcirick:
Have you tried Zoho? (http://www.zoho.com)
Zoho has the word processor and the spreadsheet, plus the presentation and the database! They have a lot more too, like chat, wiki, planner, mail, notebook, etc. Even for just the word processor, I think Zoho is superior to Google Docs.

twickline 09-16-2007 12:03 PM

Running MS Office 2003 under Linux with Wine
 
Over this past week end I have posted three Microsoft Office on Linux with Wine articles.

The Office 97 article is located here

The Office 2000 article is located here

The Office 2003 article is located here

All three articles have code samples and lots of screen shots for new and experienced Linux users.

owenjh 09-16-2007 09:54 PM

It really depends what I'm doing.

I like OpenOffice & kOffice because they have regular expressions in the find replace. If I'm sending the document to some one who's using Word and they need to edit it I will use MS Office otherwise Open or K and export to PDF.

twickline 09-16-2007 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by owenjh (Post 2894160)
It really depends what I'm doing.

I like OpenOffice & kOffice because they have regular expressions in the find replace. If I'm sending the document to some one who's using Word and they need to edit it I will use MS Office otherwise Open or K and export to PDF.

Yes I agree if you can go with a Open Source solution that is your best bet. But if you *have* to have MS Office its kinda nice to know that that option is also available to Linux users. Also Microsoft sold a boat load of Office 97,2000, 2003 licences so if you already own a licence why not get every drop of use out of it? It's already bought and payed for right?

I plan to update OpenOffice to 2.3.0 sometime this week. :D

Cheers,

-Tom

theacerguy 06-09-2009 11:11 AM

i have a copy of office 2003 pro (the million pound version)if installed on windows ould i do wine pathtoofficeonC: using the copy of office i have on windows?? i only have it cos my mum got 2007 from work...

twickline 06-09-2009 11:11 PM

Install Office 2003 with Wine or better yet Bordeaux

Tom


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