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Old 09-25-2013, 05:27 AM   #1
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KNOPPIX Live CD: No Desktop [RE-SOLVED]


I made a CD of Knoppix_V 7.2.0CD Live CD (2013-06-16-EN.iso (Read Only)
700MB

But I can't seem to figure out how to get to a GUI Desktop. I tried the http://"http://www.linuxquestions.or...-help-819706/" "Cheat Codes” if that's what their called; ... menus that appear when I boot the thing.

The md5sum was checked and OK.

Any help would be appreciated.

I'm running Deb 7 in 'bare bones' mode.

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Old 09-25-2013, 09:40 AM   #2
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On an earlier version of Knoppix, I had a similar situation. If you boot to a screen with a number of options including Graphical Programs, arrow down to highlight it and hit the Enter key then down to start lxde Full XSession and hit Enter. Not sure this will work as I don't have the most recent Knoppix available. Might look for something similar.
 
Old 09-25-2013, 05:49 PM   #3
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You get the cheat codes online. They are not all on the cd easily when booting. They may be still there if you put the cd into a working system and see if the code text file is there.

Checksum is good, it doesn't prove the cd is properly read however. Might tell us how old this system is.

Try any of the older knoppix also for a simple test. 3.3 was a good version as I recall.
 
Old 09-26-2013, 11:12 PM   #4
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On an earlier version of Knoppix, I had a similar situation. If you boot to a screen with a number of options including Graphical Programs, arrow down to highlight it and hit the Enter key then down to start lxde Full XSession and hit Enter. Not sure this will work as I don't have the most recent Knoppix available. Might look for something similar.
yancek;
No Graphical Programs on any of the menus I can find.
Poking around the KNOPPIX files from Deb7 I see:
Code:
/media/cdrom0/boot/isolinux
"unknown (application/octet-stream)"
"DOS/Windows executable (application/x-ms-dos-executable)"
Code:
/media/cdrom0/boot/isolinux/grub.exe
"grub.exe 210.4kb DOS/Windows executable"

Code:
/media/cdrom0/boot/isolinux/linux
"DOS/Windows executable (application/x-ms-dos-executable)"

These makes me wonder if I wsn't given poor instructions as to which CD to D/L and I ended up with a Windows version. Or is the CD compatible with both Debian and MS?

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Old 09-26-2013, 11:17 PM   #5
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You get the cheat codes online. They are not all on the cd easily when booting. They may be still there if you put the cd into a working system and see if the code text file is there.

Checksum is good, it doesn't prove the cd is properly read however. Might tell us how old this system is.

Try any of the older knoppix also for a simple test. 3.3 was a good version as I recall.
jefro;

What would the "code text file" be named? Both "boot.cat" and "boot.msg" files 'properties' produce, "unknown (application/octet-stream)"

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Old 09-27-2013, 03:59 PM   #6
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http://knoppix.net/wiki/Cheat_Codes
 
Old 09-28-2013, 08:54 AM   #7
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Well; I got joy. But not quite the way 'we' expected.

I'd been over the "Cheat Codes" a couple of times as you suggested with no luck. Then I opted to try running "soffice" under the "Graphical Environment..." Page and it worked as expected. Just for the heck of it, I tried the only other option on that page again (4th time) ""startlxde" and finally it booted into the Desktop. Why it wouldn't start on the first 3 attempts is a mystery to me.

Thanks for all your help. I was about to turf it out and D/L another version.

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Old 10-03-2013, 12:24 PM   #8
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I'm not sure I'm doing this right. I marked the thread [SOLVED] but that was premature. If I should post this differently, I'll rely on the mods to set me straight.

In fin, I think the KNOPPIX_V7.2 Live CD, 2013-06-16-EN.iso (Read Only) 700 MB I D/L'd is a bust.

1. Can't boot into Graphical Programs (Desktop) without first starting 'slibroffice', closing it, going back to "Graphical Programs Menu" then starting lxde.

2. Texts of Menus, Toolbars and Drop-downs contain innumerable typos/ommissions. E.g., "New _ab" instead of "New Tab", "_" instead of "Tools" and too many more to bother mentioning.

3. "Num Lock" can't be engaged. Can't enter passwords or use Caps.

I should mention again that the md5sum for this .iso did check.
 
Old 10-03-2013, 06:11 PM   #9
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Thanks for the update.

Guess it can't hurt to try some ideas.

Burn it at the very slowest speed again on the best quality disc.

Get a different version?

Try other live cd's.

Make a live usb.
 
Old 10-03-2013, 07:13 PM   #10
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Thanks for the update.

Guess it can't hurt to try some ideas.

Burn it at the very slowest speed again on the best quality disc.

Get a different version?

Try other live cd's.

Make a live usb.
Hi jefro:

I burned this one @ 2X. I'm leaning toward getting a different version. I had great results with "KNOPPIX_5.1.1CD-2007-01-04-EN.iso", which is a Live CD. I still use it. But I thought it time to get an updated version.

Also; I have a friend who's using MS and I'm wanting to give them a taste of Linux in addition to giving them a tool to recover from crashes.

If y'all could direct me to a repo/site for a distro I might rely on, I'd appreciate it.

What about http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html

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Old 10-03-2013, 09:14 PM   #11
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It should be OK depending on the country you are in.

Torrents aren't totally bad if you want to try but you were correct in checking the md5.

I like the black cd's myself, they seem to be better on my stuff.


Even if you burn a good cd, it may not work in all systems. I still can't tell what went wrong with your deal. Since you proved V5 works then can't guess.

Maybe someone else may know.
 
Old 10-05-2013, 08:45 AM   #12
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Jefro;

I'm not sure the site I posted is a torrent;
http://www.knopper.net/knoppix-mirrors/index-en.html
http://www.cise.ufl.edu/
I'm in Canada; right on the 49th; close enough to throw stones at the Yanks; ... if I wanted to, that is. The US 'mirror' seems the closest per the list.

The version that appears at the above mirror seems to be "ftp://ftp.cise.ufl.edu/pub/mirrors/knoppix/ADRIANE-KNOPPIX_V6.2.1CD-2010-01-31-EN.iso" updated 31/01/10. The version I got before was V7.2, updated 16/06/13. This all confuses the heck out of me.

I'm also unsure what you mean by "black" CD's. The CD under scrutiny is a TDK 700 MB CD-RW. I'm dispatching the missus to London Drugs to fetch me some blank CD's today. I've run out. They don't have Memorex Black CD's in stock per their web page.


by edit
I D/L/d and burned V6.2. It seems to work as advertised. It does have a tendency to shut down to a black screen every once in a while and "Caps Lock" works in reverse.

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Old 10-06-2013, 06:02 PM   #13
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Download checked by md5 is usually good enough.

The system blanking or such may suggest wild bios settings for cpu or memory, bad memory, bad cables, bad ccd/dvd drive and such.
 
  


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