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edgjerp 10-10-2008 10:13 AM

kde4 panel useless
 
I just changed to kde4 on my computer, and so far I am not impressed with a few details.

- I cannot move any widgets on the panel, they are all on the left side of the screen, in the order they were added.
- minimized windows do not show up on the panel
-many of the settings dialogs are marginally useful at best


- adept manager is marked as specialized for kde3, no replacement for kde4

almatic 10-10-2008 12:34 PM

Last week I have tested kde4 for the 1st time. After 2 days I switched back to 3.5.
I also think that plasma is by far the biggest downer. No background panels, no customization. I really got used to the power of kicker.

My second problem is the "semantic desktop" with it's tons of tightly integrated indexing crawlers (nepomuk, strigi ...). I have never liked desktop searches, have never used one because I hate it, when every single bit on my machine is indexed. I use the locate kio-plugin, thats more than enough.

Also I had big problems with the performance, when scrolling in file-managers.

imho kde4 will take at least another 6 months until it is close to be usable for an everday user, who cannot just sit there and enjoy composite desktop effects.

I have used the packages from debian/experimental.

craigevil 10-10-2008 05:29 PM

You can use kicker in kde4.

HOW-TO: Kicker on KDE4 KDE-Apps.org
http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show...?content=76539

kde4 will be ready by the time it is kde 4.5 about the same time that kde3 started to rock. I agree the search indexing is a waste of resources. locate works quite well.

google01103 10-10-2008 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgjerp (Post 3306147)
I just changed to kde4 on my computer, and so far I am not impressed with a few details.

- I cannot move any widgets on the panel, they are all on the left side of the screen, in the order they were added.
- minimized windows do not show up on the panel
-many of the settings dialogs are marginally useful at best


- adept manager is marked as specialized for kde3, no replacement for kde4

maybe you're using a crappy distro or a kde4.0beta but I can do what you can't, though the settings are minimal at best

You really should post your distro, version# and kde4 release# - better yet post on your distro's forum.

almatic 10-11-2008 06:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by craigevil (Post 3306418)
You can use kicker in kde4.

yes, you can, but that's obviously a lame workaround because :
- kicker will pull a bunch of dependecies from kde3 (you need to configure via kcontrol ...).
- plasma is not only the panel but also the whole workspace (what was kdesktop in kde3). You will almost certainly suffer loss of functionality if you kick out the plasma panel
- the startup time will be a lot higher because kde3 libs need to be loaded as well
- and so on ...

I want a kickerplasma for kde4 (or a plasmakicker) !
:(

arizonagroovejet 10-12-2008 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgjerp
- I cannot move any widgets on the panel, they are all on the left side of the screen, in the order they were added.

Right click on panel, select Panel Settings, left click on widgets to drag them.

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgjerp
- minimized windows do not show up on the panel

Right click on Panel, select Add Widgets... add the Task Manager. Though if that isn't there by default your distro has lousy default settings. It's there by default in Kubuntu.

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgjerp
- adept manager is marked as specialized for kde3, no replacement for kde4

Does adept manager run OK under KDE 4? Does for me, so I don't see a problem.


What version of KDE 4 are you using? If it's not 4.1.2 then upgrade. I tried using 4.0 for about five minutes before deciding it was unusable for anything except looking at out of curiosity and deciding to stick with 3.5 for the time being. 4.1.2 is a big improvement.

edgjerp 10-13-2008 03:30 AM

kde 4.03 in kubuntu. the version available through repositories

edgjerp 10-13-2008 03:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonagroovejet (Post 3308024)
Right click on panel, select Panel Settings, left click on widgets to drag them.

no effect

Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonagroovejet (Post 3308024)
Right click on Panel, select Add Widgets... add the Task Manager. Though if that isn't there by default your distro has lousy default settings. It's there by default in Kubuntu.

no, it wasnt, but now that part works



Quote:

Originally Posted by arizonagroovejet (Post 3308024)
Does adept manager run OK under KDE 4? Does for me, so I don't see a problem.

it works fine, just annoying that it is marked as a kde3 app.

arizonagroovejet 10-13-2008 04:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by edgjerp (Post 3308414)
kde 4.03 in kubuntu. the version available through repositories

Unless you add the repo that contains the latest version.

http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.1.2


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