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Old 01-29-2009, 07:20 AM   #1
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Question KDE3.5.10 - make KDEWALLET less obtrusive


Slackware 12.2; kernel 2.6.27, KDE 3.5.10, Enlightenment DR16.

Howdy Nixers'n'Nixettes!

kdewallet is getting on my tits these days:

1. Its ability to store password for my outgoing gmail smtp account seems compromised, I have to enter the password manually upon sending a message.

[Kontact was told to use kdewallet; settings in Sending tab of Accounts are set to remember password; kdewallet prompt to unlock the wallet when I first start the computer in the morning and kontact download mail from several mailboxes just fine; he too allow me to send via another smtp server, phpnet.org, without fuss.]

???

2. Whereas kdewallet work at remembering (albeit not all) passwords, with Konqueror browsing my FTP server it's another story: I have to re-input the login name and password every morning; it will then remember them but will prompt in front of me to click 'ok' on a pre-filled login pop-up every now and then, it seems it only auto-send the necessary login information for about three minutes, then prompts again. Over a slow connection, when deleting large files, it simply leads to failure. My FTP server auto-disconnects after 15 minutes of inactivity.

???

I do _not_ have this problem with gnome 2.14 on a fedora10 laptop, over 15 minutes it does the re-connection without prompt BTW.


???

There's no man page or info page for kdewallet, and the manual doesn't help at all in regard to Time-Outs or "reset" a password's properties (you can only delete, which I will sure do).

Cheers

Jean-Philippe
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Old 02-02-2009, 05:55 PM   #2
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I don't use KDEWallet at all. I find that Kmail can remember my password in its own configuration/startup file. The Kmail component of Kontact doesn't require KDEWallet at all.

Firefox can remember my passwords for this web site and for other web sites by using its own password manager.

Some login authentication is based on cookies. If you clear your web browser's cookies you may be removing its 'memory' of your authentication at that web site.

I have several user accounts on my computer. The one for my personal email is not the one that I log into. I use Konsole and su to my personal account and run email and confidential Firefox sessions from there. My main login is just for cruising the Internet; nothing confidential. This way I can set my personal account to not clear cookies from Firefox and still be pretty secure. I recommend this approach even if you use KDEWallet.

If you decide to use several accounts as I do and log in to all of them simultaneously as I do then your main login account needs to have the following lines in your .bashrc file.
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xhost +local:
export DISPLAY=":0.0"
The second line is required for the accounts that you su to. Then when you open Konsole and su to your other accounts they can create a window on your console.

I don't know if saying 'don't use KDEWallet' is much help but my approach not using KDEWallet is pretty convenient.

Last edited by stress_junkie; 02-02-2009 at 05:59 PM.
 
Old 02-02-2009, 09:30 PM   #3
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That looks kinda cool - you may have just solved _another_ problem of mine. It's true that the help on the wallet part was on the verge of thin but then the gimmick in .bashrc is quite useful, I hope it will get rid of the "cannot connect to x server" message when I try to run root apps from a console in e16.

[EDIT] Nope, it won't allow me to run root windows from my non-root user, but thanks

I've tried a life with and without kdewallet; for all ftp jobs you need it, for as little convenient, as much obtrusive as it is. alas, I do ftp all day long.

Now, anyone _else_ with some _kdewallet-tweaking_ advice ?

Jean-Philippe

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Old 02-03-2009, 04:47 PM   #4
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my experience with kwallet is also very mixed. Here are some things I noticed.

- kwallet will stop working for an application if you hit "cancel" when it asks for the password. Let's say you wanna fetch your mail, hit cancel accidently. Kmail will then ask for your password, until you enter it again (don't forget to check "remember password" !). Kwallet will still work on all other applications.

- Sometimes the wallet files gets destroyed for no apparent reason (maybe a dbus issue). I once visited a site, which let firefox crash. After that my wallet refused to open ("wallet is not a kwallet file ..."). I opened the wallet file with kate and found it contained xml-code from the news-ticker of the site I had visited.

Both issues are still present in kde 4.2. Better not rely on kwallet.
 
  


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