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Old 12-16-2007, 10:05 PM   #1
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KDE : How to input [ Russian + Dvorak + Phonetic ] ??


...now that the power has come back on...

The situation before: I used a Qwerty keyboard, and only typed in English in the console, so any/all language settings I used could be set from within KDE, including inputting Russian phonetically...

The situation now: I use a Dvorak keyboard... So I have had to do several things to try to make everything copascetic:

1 - I use 'loadkeys dvorak.map' in rc.keymap so I can type Dvorakly in the console (e.g. before starting X).
2 - In xorg.conf, I have-- Option "XkbLayout" "us" -and- Option "XkbVariant" "dvorak" --so I can log in (KDM) and otherwise work dvorakly in English, within X.

The trouble is, when I switch KDE to inputting Russian (phonetically), the keyboard layout (variant) reverts to Qwerty. I cannot figure out how to get the dvorak-ness to remain, along with the phonetic+Russian input; in other words, I can have Qwerty+Russian, or Qwerty+Russian+phonetic, but not Dvorak+Russian+phonetic.

Google, my docs, and browsing /usr/lib/X11R6/.. and /opt/kde/.. has given me lots of info on console fonts, keyboards/layouts, maps, X-related stuff, but the best I have come up with (by reading between the lines) is that I may need to create my own keymap. What I want doesn't seem to be pre-existing.. I have tried a whack of experiments with setxkblayout/variant/keymap/option too, to no avail..

Before I get further underway, can anyone shed any light on this?

Thanks!
--Sasha
 
Old 12-17-2007, 02:50 AM   #2
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The phonetic russial layout is a querty layout. There is no out of the box option for a dvorak version of the phonetic layout.

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best I have come up with (by reading between the lines) is that I may need to create my own keymap.
That would be correct. dvorak-layout for phonetic keymaps seems to be missing. Remember that this is so people with us keyboards con type non-us languages more easily. There's no equivalent "phonetic English" kbd for users of, say, cyrillic, keyboards.

Alternatively - use a HW dvorak kbd, or or a cyrillic kbd instead.
 
Old 12-25-2007, 11:41 PM   #3
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...There is no out of the box option for a dvorak version of the phonetic layout.
...dvorak-layout for phonetic keymaps seems to be missing.

Alternatively - use a HW dvorak kbd, or or a cyrillic kbd instead.
Simon, thanks for the very concise reply, and for verifying my finding that what I was looking for is not actually available. At some point, I plan to do just as you suggest: get a dual English/Cyrillic dvorak keyboard!



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Old 12-26-2007, 04:37 AM   #4
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Of course a really helpful approach wauld be to produce a keyboard map for dvorak/phonetic which can be used as part of the locale. The project would be happy to have one.
 
  


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