i386 AMD 64 32 bit

sofasurfer · 12-26-2007, 12:56 PM

Processor-AMD64
Debian-AMD64
Some packages are not available through Apt or Synaptic (such as Skype).
I find them on the web and they can be downloaded. However, they are for an i386 machine. Do I want these or do I need package for AMD 64(which I can not find)?

Also, if I download a package that is a .deb file, how do I install it. This is the format that apt and symaptic use, isn't it? So how do I install a .deb that I download from a web site?

Vookimedlo · 12-26-2007, 02:01 PM

Hi,

there is no 64bit version of skype available. However, you can use 32bit applications in Debian AMD64.

Two ways:
1) chrooted 32bit sandbox (prefered way)
2) use ia32 libs from /emul/ia32-linux

The second solution is very fast. Install packages:
- ia32libs
- ia32libs-gtk
- lib32*

Download 32bit static version of skype 1.4 or 2.0beta and check if you have all required libraries.

Code:

ldd skype | grep -i not

If you have all libraries than you can run skype. It runs flawlessly.

sofasurfer · 01-01-2008, 07:02 PM

It can't seem to locate ia32libs-gtk. Not through apt-get or synaptic.
Why is that?

HappyTux · 01-01-2008, 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sofasurfer

It can't seem to locate ia32libs-gtk. Not through apt-get or synaptic.
Why is that?

Your searching for the wrong package name.

Code:

HappyTux:/home/stephen#apt-cache search  ia32libs-gtk
HappyTux:/home/stephen#apt-cache search  ia32libs
HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-cache search ia32
ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems
ia32-libs-gtk - gtk+ ia32 shared libraries        <--------- here
microcode.ctl - Intel IA32/IA64 CPU Microcode Utility
ia32-sun-java5-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (32-bit)
ia32-sun-java6-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (32-bit)
nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (71xx legacy version)
nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (96xx legacy version)
nvidia-glx-legacy-ia32 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (71xx legacy version)

sofasurfer · 01-01-2008, 09:19 PM

I searched for exactly this... ia32-libs-gtk. It comes up with nothing.

Another question... Is my whole problem with using 32bit apps with my system, that I downloaded the 64 bit version of Debian, or the fact that I bought a 64 bit processor?

Uncle_Theodore · 01-01-2008, 09:49 PM

The first one.

AMD 64 will happily run any 32-bit operating system.

sofasurfer · 01-01-2008, 09:55 PM

But, all apps are not available in 64 bit and to make them work its a whole big thing that I can't handle. I think though that it is the Debian version and not the processor version that is the problem. My question is, will switching to 32 bit Debian get me peice.

Uncle_Theodore · 01-01-2008, 09:59 PM

Yes, that's what I said above. With a 64-bit processor you have the choice of a 32-bit or a 64-bit opertaing system. You can install a 32-bit version of Debian and it will run great.

sofasurfer · 01-01-2008, 10:00 PM

Is i386 the version I want then?

Uncle_Theodore · 01-01-2008, 10:07 PM

Yes. i386.

sofasurfer · 01-01-2008, 10:13 PM

Thank you Uncle Theodore.

RadonPL · 01-03-2008, 11:10 PM

If you emcunter any problems, you can manually run 32-bit programs from a 64-bit distribution. Just use:

Code:

linux32 sh *program_name*