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Old 12-26-2007, 12:56 PM   #1
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i386 AMD 64 32 bit


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Debian-AMD64
Some packages are not available through Apt or Synaptic (such as Skype).
I find them on the web and they can be downloaded. However, they are for an i386 machine. Do I want these or do I need package for AMD 64(which I can not find)?

Also, if I download a package that is a .deb file, how do I install it. This is the format that apt and symaptic use, isn't it? So how do I install a .deb that I download from a web site?
 
Old 12-26-2007, 02:01 PM   #2
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Hi,

there is no 64bit version of skype available. However, you can use 32bit applications in Debian AMD64.

Two ways:
1) chrooted 32bit sandbox (prefered way)
2) use ia32 libs from /emul/ia32-linux

The second solution is very fast. Install packages:
- ia32libs
- ia32libs-gtk
- lib32*

Download 32bit static version of skype 1.4 or 2.0beta and check if you have all required libraries.

Code:
ldd skype | grep -i not
If you have all libraries than you can run skype. It runs flawlessly.
 
Old 01-01-2008, 07:02 PM   #3
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It can't seem to locate ia32libs-gtk. Not through apt-get or synaptic.
Why is that?

Last edited by sofasurfer; 01-01-2008 at 07:40 PM.
 
Old 01-01-2008, 08:50 PM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sofasurfer View Post
It can't seem to locate ia32libs-gtk. Not through apt-get or synaptic.
Why is that?
Your searching for the wrong package name.

Code:
HappyTux:/home/stephen#apt-cache search  ia32libs-gtk
HappyTux:/home/stephen#apt-cache search  ia32libs
HappyTux:/home/stephen# apt-cache search ia32
ia32-libs - ia32 shared libraries for use on amd64 and ia64 systems
ia32-libs-gtk - gtk+ ia32 shared libraries        <--------- here
microcode.ctl - Intel IA32/IA64 CPU Microcode Utility
ia32-sun-java5-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 5.0 (32-bit)
ia32-sun-java6-bin - Sun Java(TM) Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 (32-bit)
nvidia-glx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver
nvidia-glx-legacy-71xx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (71xx legacy version)
nvidia-glx-legacy-96xx-ia32 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (96xx legacy version)
nvidia-glx-legacy-ia32 - NVIDIA binary Xorg driver (71xx legacy version)
 
Old 01-01-2008, 09:19 PM   #5
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I searched for exactly this... ia32-libs-gtk. It comes up with nothing.

Another question... Is my whole problem with using 32bit apps with my system, that I downloaded the 64 bit version of Debian, or the fact that I bought a 64 bit processor?
 
Old 01-01-2008, 09:49 PM   #6
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The first one. AMD 64 will happily run any 32-bit operating system.
 
Old 01-01-2008, 09:55 PM   #7
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But, all apps are not available in 64 bit and to make them work its a whole big thing that I can't handle. I think though that it is the Debian version and not the processor version that is the problem. My question is, will switching to 32 bit Debian get me peice.
 
Old 01-01-2008, 09:59 PM   #8
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Yes, that's what I said above. With a 64-bit processor you have the choice of a 32-bit or a 64-bit opertaing system. You can install a 32-bit version of Debian and it will run great.
 
Old 01-01-2008, 10:00 PM   #9
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Is i386 the version I want then?
 
Old 01-01-2008, 10:07 PM   #10
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Yes. i386.
 
Old 01-01-2008, 10:13 PM   #11
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Thank you Uncle Theodore.
 
Old 01-03-2008, 11:10 PM   #12
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If you emcunter any problems, you can manually run 32-bit programs from a 64-bit distribution. Just use:
Code:
linux32 sh *program_name*
 
  


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