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Old 04-21-2013, 01:55 AM   #16
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There is a migration script to migrate the majority of MATE 1.4 settings to MATE 1.6.

My advice is do not use anything from MATE 1.4 in MATE 1.6. There is evidence in various distributions that keeping things from MATE 1.4 actually cause problems in MATE 1.6. If it is not in 1.6 it is most probably deprecated and will do nothing useful in 1.6 anyway.
Makes sense. Since I am totally new to Mate (but not to Linux, been on Linux since 2000) I'm just looking for info so that I do it right. There is no native Mate distro yet (apart that is from Mint which I detest) so I need to roll my own.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 02:05 AM   #17
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Fedora has MATE 1.5.* in it and Nice&Gently has a dropbox repository for MATE 1.6 . He is a packager for Fedora.

I don't dislike Mint (btw Mint is still on MATE 1.4), I don't dislike Ubuntu either, but I do dislike being spoonfed and both those distros do that more than many others. My suggestion to you would be to give Debian Wheezy (which will be released in a couple of weeks as a stable release) a go.

Whatever you do please make sure you research it.

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Old 04-21-2013, 02:22 AM   #18
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My sugegstion to you would be to give Debian Wheezy (which will be released in a couple of weeks as a stable release) a go.
Already running Debian Wheezy with Openbox (Crunchbang) :-) but I was a Gnome 2.2 user and liked it, hence my interest in Mate. Only use RPM based distros if there are no other options, I much prefer APT. Don't have problems with Ubuntu just don't like DE's that they currently offer. I'm sure Mint is fine, just not for me. If Mate does not work out for me, I'll likely stay with Openbox & Crunchbang. I like a DE that does not get in my way.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 02:34 AM   #19
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Read this page and add the MATE repository in your sources.list when required. Then
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apt-get update
apt-get install mate-archive-keyring
apt-get install mate-core lightdm or
apt-get install mate-desktop-environment lightdm or
apt-get install mate-desktop-environment-extras lightdm
This will get you various degrees of MATE on a barebones system. There will be more non-MATE packages required to get alot of things but I'm sure that can be worked out when needed.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 02:09 PM   #20
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There is a migration script to migrate the majority of MATE 1.4 settings to MATE 1.6.

My advice is do not use anything from MATE 1.4 in MATE 1.6. There is evidence in various distributions that keeping things from MATE 1.4 actually cause problems in MATE 1.6. If it is not in 1.6 it is most probably deprecated and will do nothing useful in 1.6 anyway.
The only reason I advocated for installing two Mate 1.4 development libraries is to appease the configure scripts for installing a couple programs from source. Using 1.4 libraries in 1.6 is not particularly good practice, but as these particular libraries are depreciated, once the programs are compiled, these development libraries can be removed. I am only suggesting to do this until whoever maintains the source code for these programs updates it in reference to the changed dependencies.

There are quite a few Mate programs that people have ported from Gnome 2.32 that are not in the official repository yet, mainly because they might not work perfectly well. But I have found that programs like mate-notes, mate-video-player, rejilla, and so on, work sufficiently well for ordinary use. Your results may vary...
 
Old 04-21-2013, 02:16 PM   #21
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The applications you mention appear to only be available for Ubuntu's MATE 1.4, they were not in Debian's MATE 1.4. I, personally, would just find an alternative like VLC for playing videos rather than bring in old, deprecated and no longer supported by anyone, applications.
 
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I haven't yet tried doing any of this on Debian. Debian might have more or less libraries installed by default than Ubuntu so building things from source might have different requirements. It should be possible to totally eliminate these libraries even when building from source if the dependent development libraries are compiled like

Code:
./configure --enable-static --disable-shared [other arguments...]
That way the necessary code from the dependency gets absorbed into the dependent program and there is no need to carry the extra *.so files on the system.

VLC relies on Qt nowadays for the GUI, so users with a bare-bones Mate system might need to pull in a significant amount of dependencies. The fork of Totem has apparently been updated recently, and now it is called Idol. I have yet to try compiling it.

There is also mate-color-manager for using color profiles, etc.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 10:44 PM   #23
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A rewrite of MATE using GTK3 is a major effort, and will likely take some time. I think Cinnamon is more future-proof, as it's already based on GTK3. Just my opinion.
 
Old 04-21-2013, 11:02 PM   #24
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A rewrite of MATE using GTK3 is a major effort, and will likely take some time. I think Cinnamon is more future-proof, as it's already based on GTK3. Just my opinion.
MATE's roadmap
 
Old 07-16-2013, 11:51 AM   #25
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Audio controls

Hi,

I cannot understand which packages I need in order to have audio controls working. I see in the panel Mate Volume Control, but it does not recognize any sound card, even if when I give
Code:
cat /proc/asound/cards
, the audio server tells me that I have a sound card, and everything seems fine also doing
Code:
aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav
. So what's wrong?

Thanks
 
Old 08-01-2013, 12:10 AM   #26
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Hi all,

I want to try and install Mate but has any one got one up and running yet? Where can I download the disk I would like the 32bit and 64bit version USB live version or full install. Has any one made PDF file yet? I don't like the Ubuntu desktop but I have seen Mate. Right now I'm using LUbuntu 13.04 64bit version and my wife is using the 32bit version.

Here is a link for my computer to see if it will work or not. Please take look tell me good or bad I want to know.

http://reviews.cnet.com/desktops/hp-...-32609427.html

The best thing is a man gave it to me for scrap because I do Refining Gold and Silver there are other PM inside plus I make money with the scrap. I got 7 grams of Gold and 15 grams of Silver last year hope to get a lot more. And yes the computer he gave me I didn't scrap it it works 90% but I had to put a new Hard Drive that what was bad in it.

Any help would be great.

Thanks
Jack
 
  


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