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Old 12-03-2006, 03:31 PM   #1
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Formatting external hdd as backup to 2 hdd's


Here's some obvious newbie questions:

On my desktop, I've got two HDD's, one with XP (100GB)(approximately 14GB used up) and one with Ubuntu (200GB)(it looks like one small partition is being used, say 4 or 5 GB, whatever the standard Linux partition size is). Of course I use GRUB to move between the two HDD's, and it appears after the BIOS, of course.

I have an external HDD (100GB) that I want to use to periodically back up the two HDD's in the desktop. Right now it's just one NFTS partition.

So I'd like to create two partitions on the external HDD, say 60GB XP and 40BG for the Linux.

I want to do the following as simply as possible: create the partitions on the external HDD and do the monthly backups.

My questions are:
--there's nothing on the external HDD right now that I want to save (in fact I've already deleted all folders and files). So do I need to first reformat the external HDD before creating partitions?
--how do I do so? Can I use DOS commands from the XP command prompt, for example, or what?
--how do I create appropriate partitions on the external HDD?
--do I need to set up a separate, say, 100MG partition as the first partition on the external HDD for a GRUB on the external HDD? Or do I even need to do that? Maybe just two partitions is enough.
--and once the necessary partitions are set up on the external HDD, how and in what order (if that's even of concern) do I do the backups of each HDD in the desktop?

(Incidentally, is it more appropriate to say "HDD" or "harddrive" or whatever?)

-Bob Balch
 
Old 12-03-2006, 03:49 PM   #2
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If shutting down the system for backup is not a problem then check out http://www.partimage.org/Main_Page and the SystemRescueCD to the left. It is a live CD and does many other things. Only issue is ntfs is not perfect. For that you might check into a Windows tool for that to be closer to 100percent sure. Not sure if how ghost for linux will work. might check into that one as well.

Brian
 
Old 12-04-2006, 11:49 PM   #3
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The following is written with only data backup in mind, not backups of the whole OS.

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--there's nothing on the external HDD right now that I want to save (in fact I've already deleted all folders and files). So do I need to first reformat the external HDD before creating partitions?
--how do I do so? Can I use DOS commands from the XP command prompt, for example, or what?
--how do I create appropriate partitions on the external HDD?
You format after partitioning, not before.

However, I think that you should not partition but split the HD in two main directories, one for Linux and one for Windows. That way you don't waste space when one of the main directories is full and there is still plenty of space in the other.
I suggest to use FAT32 and create it under Linux (under Windows you can not create FAT32 partition greater than 32GB; see http://www.allensmith.net/Storage/HDDlimit/FAT32.htm for some info).

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--do I need to set up a separate, say, 100MG partition as the first partition on the external HDD for a GRUB on the external HDD? Or do I even need to do that? Maybe just two partitions is enough.
GRUB is only required when booting. If you don't want to boot from the external HD, there is no need for that.

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--and once the necessary partitions are set up on the external HDD, how and in what order (if that's even of concern) do I do the backups of each HDD in the desktop?
This question is no 100% clear to me. If you can see the windows disk under Linux, you can do both the Windows and Linux backup under Linux.
If you use the ext2 filesystem under Linux, you can install additional software under windows that can read (and write if I remember correctly) so the Linux 'stuff' is visible under Windows and you can backup.
 
  


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