LMAO @ that HardOCP/HardForum thread.

Asking an overclockers forum for the 'all time best motherboard' is not the information you want to know. Most of the boards mentioned ar old, or very old. A lot of the votes are pure personal preference, eg the nForce2 boards.

You've got some people saying 'Abit NF7-S v2.0', other people saying 'Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe', even a 'Epox 8RDA+'. I've owned all three, IMO it goes Abit NF7-S v2.0-> Epox 8RDA+-> Asus A7N8X-E Deluxe. I still own a Abit NF7-S v2.0. BTW, my NF7s-v2.0 is dead, and it was a 'op end' board of the time. I've got an asus nforc1 board, which was at best 'mid range' that is still running, and I got it from a place where I used to work where it was on the floor in a plastic bag. Just because a motherboard is 'high end' doesnt mean its goignt o have a longer lifespan, and its virtually imposible to predict the lifespan of a motherboard.

Asking about power supplies is almost as bad, you are getting lots of 'get this megawatt PSU' recommendations. More current PSUs than curent motherobards from the 'all time best motherboard' thread, but still some of themare outdated (eg PC Power and Cooling, they made some amazing PSUs back 'in the day' but they were sold,a dn quality dropped a lot). If you arent running a huge overclock and/or 'gamers' cards in SLI/Crossfire, you arent going to need, or even want, 750watt+ PSUs.

I dont know why you would want a NZXT Phantom , its another 'overclocker' case. Great if you dont mind running half a dozen fans...rather lame if you dont. Odd case slection as well, normally I when I see 'waht case do I get' thread, the cases are either from a prince-point, or share a similar look. Those are all over the place. *thinks* you didnt just find cases from peoples sigs did you?

That is over 3 years worth of music. I cant see the point.

Umm.....you did read what you just wrote?

I'll paraphrase for you- 'my HDD space is not based on comparison. My 160GB HDD is small compared to what other people have, and what is available'.

The 2 statements are mutually exclusive.

Calm down. Nothing and nobody is 'unstopable'.

Now, that isn't what I said, is it? "though what you say you want does seem to change from post to post, and even within posts" is what I said.

You havent changed what you say you use the computer for (though you are very fuzzy about your real reasons for all this), its more about your lack of understanding about computer hardware. In particular, its the 'I want a machine that can bulldoze stuff' idea combined with 'I want a laptop'. Laptops are always slower, always more expensive, always have less expansion capabilites than desktops...and so on.

12 RAM slots, not 16. LGA 1366 systems always have triple channel RAM, so the slots must be in multipules of 3.

Then make s thread on 'using multipule computers', and watch the 'you arent going to need it for desktop use' posts roll in.

Then you can make a few guarded hints that you want be some sort of U83r 1337 h4ck0r to get revenge on someone who stole from you, or to make the world a better place. You'll still get 'you arent going to need it' posts. Also 'its not that easy', 'let it die, whats done is done' and 'do you know what you are doing is just as illegal as what has been done to you' posts...

You could even go and join a black hat forum, and they will tell you that unless you are using multipule networks for your different computer(eg by nicking your neightbours wireless) multipule computers wont help.

BTW, most people have 1-3MB/sec (megabyte, not meagbit) internet connections. Even ancient pentiums can handle more throughput than that, having a really fast computer doesnt help much at all with net stuff. The only reason why a pentium isnt really that good for net use is the GUIs suck to many CPU cycles.

Ripped off online, eh? I'd assume that from what you've written above.

You arent going to go out with a shiny new computer and right the wrongs of the world.

Yeah, right. You havent even posted your location, so why would anyone hassle you to get parts? BTW, you already said "I can get a pretty nice laptop for half price from a friend who gets deals with a school", and if thats your way to get cheaper prices, you're wrong (you simply will not get half price current parts that arent 'open box' or 'refurbished'. Period.)

Anyone who has dealt in building comouters for any length of time knows that there is no way around the price of parts. You can shave some costs, but you cant go below the margins, retailers will not lose money on current parts (and they really try to avoid it with older parts as well).

There is no 'best'.

If you go asking in overclockers forums for 'the best' you will generally end up with tweaky, expensive overclockers boards with SLI/Crossfire capability being recommended (Hard is [probably not the best like that, OCAU generally has better posers who dont assume as much and explain things better IMO). If you arent overclocking, you dont need an expensive overclockers board. If you arent a harcore gamer, you dont need SLI/Crossfire, and even if you are a serious gamer its still not something you need.

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OMG man, OK... I am lmao, but at the same time I am rolling my eyes! I don't know where to start? I'm just going to start from the most personal part ... no I didn't get ripped off online. No, it was my roommate I lived with who was a scammer, and a fkn good one at it too

Anywho, I am, part of BlckHT site, and not only do I have a whole network of WiFi's I could use in my apartment complex- which is surrounded by other apartments, but there are VPN's, Proxies, Tunnelling, Dynamic IP's, and a couple other things, but I just woke up and I think thats pretty efficient. Also no one said anything about l33t haxoring, the only thing I have ever hacked is some vegetables in the kitchen, and my arrangement on my Internet connection with Linux, and other than that I am just going to school and taking classes.

I dont think you are going to see what I mean even if I explain it 100 times. I'm not comparing HDD space with any other person. For myself, and for what I feel I need for my personal PC use, and to the amount of space that I could obtain = 2TB is relatively small imo, and I feel that 2TB fits my needs- end of question.


Well ya, my "Intro to Comp Sys Info class" starts in March ... so I still haven't gotten much more experience than taking apart my friends broken PC, setting the motherboard on the floor, and watching a couple pretty good Youtube videos on what all the components are. Here is the link with the videos I have been watching. And if you know of a better way I can start learning right now without paying 100$ for a DVD, please leave me a link, and thanks. http://www.youtube.com/results?searc...l1.2.1.1.2l7l0

The 12 slots then I now also know could be for video cards or PCI slots, although I did say I wont be picking up that board, and the only reason I like it is because it makes a point. I don't understand why a motherboard found on a floor in a plastic bag could be just as good as a gold plated motherboard-- well actually let me rephrase for you because then you are going to think I literally mean a gold motherboard. I mean, why isn't it like a car? Sure, a Ford Pinto, can get me from point A to point B, but a Ferrari is not the same ride. Maybe I wont get the Farrari because it is a little impractical, and mostly for show, but maybe a Lexus, or BMW is what I want because I can afford it. Thats all I am saying I want for my computer.

I don't know where to start, obviously, so I am just making a post for a motherboard and a PSU. Luckily you are here to slap some sense into me, because that is what I want. #1 I do not want to waste money, #2 I want something that is not going to lack something I need later, or have things I do not need now, and #3 I want the computer to be something that is compatible for my needs. Idk, maybe there are more numbers too. (right product the 1st buy)


I dont need to ask anyone why I need multiple computers incl a laptop. You seem to be missing the point. I have already been told to get a 2nd computer which is a laptop, and I already know what the reasons are for wanting it. I do not say because it isn't relative to this Linux forum. Maybe if you were on Ubers.org with me we could get in depth about it, but I don't need to justify why i need to do what I am doing. I want a PC for home, and a lap top as good as possible to use either at home or away, and my netbook is a side project really: to install and test new distros, to give myself a virus and remove it, to upgrade, and take it apart. Thats all there is to it.

I don't need faster than the fastest Internet connection in existence. I need a computer that doesn't lag when I am running 5 major programs. Not because I am doing anything Diabolic. Because I am using the Linux-- "the OS that doesnt crash" and it is constantly freezing, and I have to restart all the time, and all I am doing is writing posts, using Gimp, reading an ebook-- multi-tasking-- trust me its very useful to know how to do that on and off the comp. -You would love my cooking- there is no argument there!

No? You know what pentesting is don't you? I just edited a newsletter for Chris Hadnagy... I'm sure you have never heard of him. I'll just tell you his 5 day class is $3,500. His newsletter was similar to your response with punctuation errors everwhere, but worse, with grammatical errors everywhere also. I messaged him and told him I couldn't read it and would edit it for free. He messaged me back, and asked me to edit it, and after I sent him the edited version with grammar tips, he wrote me back and told me how much he loved it and appreciated it. I told him I would do it any time for no charge.

That is a big deal to me. That would be similar to you writing Linus Trovalds and having him write you back and telling you thanks for fixing his errors on Linux-- except good luck on getting a hold of Chris, unless you want him to speak at your seminar for a price.

The point is- Chris Hadnagy works with government spy training/pentesting/human manipulation studies. He literally wrote "the" book. And yeah, the statistics are they catch terrorists using these techniques almost daily and that is why we still have a planet that isn't blown up, or leaders assassinated, etc, in most places.

I'm not trying to save the world, but I read about how people who do do that with not much more than a computer, and I like it.

The deal I can get isn't just at his school, but I wont say because if for example I could say, "I know someone at newegg who can get me a deal on stuff", I don't want that to come back to me. And no, I cant get deals on newegg, just for future readers, fyi.

I odnt remember how i found hard|forum. I just Googled something about computer, and then they popped up, I liked their forum navigation, and they also have great user feedback. I didn't grab anything except those specs from someone else's sig. Think again.

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Thought I would add it turns out I am getting the money I thought I may or may not get and it comes late summer. So that is when this build happens. And the guy I was helping with an online computer course had a brand new laptop in December that his mom stepped on and he is just going to buy a new one because they want $400 to fix it. He said he was just going to throw it away, well all that is wrong with it is the motherboard is cracked, and the screen is cracked. The motherboard is covered under warranty and you know how EASY it is to replace a laptop screen. He said he is going to give it me if I want it :0 i*feel kinda bad bc it is such as easy fix. He said he doesnt want to fix it. So theres my new laptop, I dont even have to buy one. Only upgrade. ^__^

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And thanks for workin through this with me Cascade9.