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Dolphin (KDE 5): Get ISO 8601 compliant date & time shown for files & folders.

affected software: Dolphin 21.12.1; KDE 5.23.5 (parts of Slackware64 15.0)

"Time" is set to en_SE in "KDE control center" because this setting provides ISO 8601 compliant date & time format "YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM (24 hrs)". All other settings are set to en_DE due to my localisation and preferred language for computing.

Unfortunately, Dolphin ignores this "time" setting and shows date & time in this annoying "mM/dD/YY hH:MM (12 hrs)" format.

Example:
ISO 8601: 2023-05-08 15:37
Dolphin: 5/8/23 3:37 PM

How can I set Dolphin to use ISO 8601 compliant date & time?

I don't believe it is possible currently. Similar discussions...
https://www.reddit.com/r/ISO8601/com...o8601cldr5769/
https://superuser.com/questions/1162...ormat-in-kde-5

Maybe the pragmatic option is to use a different file manager. For example, Midnight Commander perhaps?
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ss-4175528439/

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrari (Post 6438169)

https://superuser.com/questions/1162...ormat-in-kde-5

This works for KDE 5 itself but not for Dolphin. :(

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrari (Post 6438169)

Maybe the pragmatic option is to use a different file manager. For example, Midnight Commander perhaps?
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ss-4175528439/

Done & works, but I'm using Midnight Commander (mc) in console (pure console & terminal windows on GUI) context only. mc is not an option as Dolphin replacement for me.

Going the rocky road gives a partial solution. I've created an en_DE locale with ISO 8601 compliant date & time format¹. This works on pure console & terminal windows on GUI. It removes this annoying "mM/dD/YY hH:MM (12 hrs)" format from Dolphin, but current format in Dolphin doesn't change to "YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS (24 hrs)". It changes to "DD/MM/YYYY HH:MM (24 hrs)" format instead. This is quite better than "mM/dD/YY hH:MM (12 hrs)" format but not optimal.

¹Installation of en_DE with ISO 8601 compliant date & time, installation description for Slackware64 15.0:

download so that the locale file is accessible as /usr/share/i18n/locales/en_DE
become root
run: localedef --no-archive -f UTF-8 -i en_DE en_DE.utf8
command above creates /usr/lib64/locale/en_DE.utf-8 with content
set your system or account default locale to en_DE.utf-8, for system locale: edit /etc/profile.d/lang.sh and lang.csh
reboot, or log off and back on, to activate the new locale

en_DE

Code:

comment_char %

escape_char /



% Current state: This file is NOT part of the GNU C Library and contains locale data.

% The Free Software Foundation does not claim any copyright interest

% in the locale data contained in this file.  The foregoing does not

% affect the license of the GNU C Library as a whole.  It does not

% exempt you from the conditions of the license if your use would

% otherwise be governed by that license.



% Locale for English locale in Germany with ISO 8601 compliant date & time

% de_DE Contributed by Ulrich Drepper <drepper@redhat.com>, 2000

% en_DE Contributed by Soenke Kraft <soenke.kraft@sackpfeyffer-zu-linden.de>, 2023



LC_IDENTIFICATION

title      "English locale for Germany"

source    "derived from de_DE from Free Software Foundation, Inc."

address    ""

contact    ""

email      ""

tel        ""

fax        ""

language  "English"

territory  "Germany"

revision  "1.0"

date      "2023-06-24"



category "i18n:2012";LC_IDENTIFICATION

category "i18n:2012";LC_CTYPE

category "i18n:2012";LC_COLLATE

category "i18n:2012";LC_TIME

category "i18n:2012";LC_NUMERIC

category "i18n:2012";LC_MONETARY

category "i18n:2012";LC_MESSAGES

category "i18n:2012";LC_PAPER

category "i18n:2012";LC_NAME

category "i18n:2012";LC_ADDRESS

category "i18n:2012";LC_TELEPHONE

category "i18n:2012";LC_MEASUREMENT

END LC_IDENTIFICATION



LC_CTYPE

copy "i18n"



translit_start



include "translit_combining";""



% German umlauts.

% LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS.

<U00C4> "A<U0308>";"AE"

% LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS.

<U00D6> "O<U0308>";"OE"

% LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS.

<U00DC> "U<U0308>";"UE"

% LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH DIAERESIS.

<U00E4> "a<U0308>";"ae"

% LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH DIAERESIS.

<U00F6> "o<U0308>";"oe"

% LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH DIAERESIS.

<U00FC> "u<U0308>";"ue"



% Danish.

% LATIN CAPITAL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE.

<U00C5> "A<U030A>";"AA"

% LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH RING ABOVE.

<U00E5> "a<U030A>";"aa"



% The following strange first-level transliteration derive from the use

% U201E and U201C as "correct" quoting characters.  These two characters

% do not really belong together.  The result is that somebody who uses

% U201C and U201D will get the incorrect U00AB / U00BB sequences.

% LEFT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK

<U201C> <U00AB>;<U0022>

% RIGHT DOUBLE QUOTATION MARK

<U201D> <U00BB>;<U0022>

% DOUBLE LOW-9 QUOTATION MARK

<U201E> <U00BB>;"<U002C><U002C>"

% DOUBLE HIGH-REVERSED-9 QUOTATION MARK

<U201F> <U00AB>;<U0022>



translit_end



END LC_CTYPE



LC_COLLATE



% Copy the template from ISO/IEC 14651

copy "iso14651_t1"



END LC_COLLATE



LC_MONETARY

int_curr_symbol    "EUR "

currency_symbol    "<U20AC>"

mon_decimal_point  ","

mon_thousands_sep  "."

mon_grouping        3;3

positive_sign      ""

negative_sign      "-"

int_frac_digits    2

frac_digits        2

p_cs_precedes      0

p_sep_by_space      1

n_cs_precedes      0

n_sep_by_space      1

p_sign_posn        1

n_sign_posn        1

%

END LC_MONETARY



LC_NUMERIC

decimal_point  ","

thousands_sep  "."

grouping        3;3

END LC_NUMERIC



LC_TIME

abday    "Sun";"Mon";"Tue";"Wed";"Thu";"Fri";"Sat"

day      "Sunday";/

    "Monday";/

    "Tuesday";/

    "Wednesday";/

    "Thursday";/

    "Friday";/

    "Saturday"

abmon    "Jan";"Feb";/

    "Mar";"Apr";/

    "May";"Jun";/

    "Jul";"Aug";/

    "Sep";"Oct";/

    "Nov";"Dec"

mon      "January";/

    "February";/

    "March";/

    "April";/

    "May";/

    "June";/

    "July";/

    "August";/

    "September";/

    "October";/

    "November";/

    "December"

% date formats following ISO 8601-1988

d_t_fmt  "%Y-%m-%dT%T %Z"

date_fmt "%Y-%m-%dT%T %Z"

d_fmt    "%Y-%m-%d"

t_fmt    "%T"

am_pm    "";""

t_fmt_ampm  ""

week    7;19971130;4

first_weekday 2

END LC_TIME



LC_MESSAGES

yesexpr "^[+1jJyY]"

noexpr  "^[-0nN]"

yesstr  "yes"

nostr  "no"

END LC_MESSAGES



LC_PAPER

copy "i18n"

END LC_PAPER



LC_NAME

name_fmt    "%d%t%g%t%m%t%f"

name_miss  "Miss"

name_mr    "Mister"

name_mrs    "Miss"

name_ms    "Miss"

END LC_NAME





LC_ADDRESS

postal_fmt    "%f%N%a%N%d%N%b%N%s %h %e %r%N%z %T%N%c%N"

country_name  "Germany"

country_post  "D"

country_ab2  "DE"

country_ab3  "DEU"

country_num  276

country_car  "D"

country_isbn  3

lang_name    "German"

lang_ab      "de"

lang_term    "deu"

lang_lib      "ger"

END LC_ADDRESS



LC_TELEPHONE

tel_int_fmt    "+%c %a %l"

tel_dom_fmt    "%A %l"

int_select    "00"

int_prefix    "49"

END LC_TELEPHONE



LC_MEASUREMENT

copy "i18n"

END LC_MEASUREMENT

WFM. Admittedly, my Plasma is not the freshest one - 5.12, but dolphin reacts to setting LC_TIME as expected, including en_SE
Attachment 41243

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnulf (Post 6438265)

This works for KDE 5 itself but not for Dolphin. :(

I know, and it is what I stated to you in my previous post. I was merely pointing you at similar discussions. ;)

Quote:

Done & works, but I'm using Midnight Commander (mc) in console (pure console & terminal windows on GUI) context only. mc is not an option as Dolphin replacement for me.

Midnight Commander was just an example, (and it is popular amongst those using non-GUI environments). You surely can research alternatives which provide the capability that you require?

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvm_ (Post 6438299)

WFM. Admittedly, my Plasma is not the freshest one - 5.12, but dolphin reacts to setting LC_TIME as expected, including en_SE
Attachment 41243

Yes, not something I had tried (or ever required), but as it was also mentioned in the superuser answers, I set en_SE via System Settings, and indeed time stamps doe display in Dolphin as required.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ferrari (Post 6438356)

I set en_SE via System Settings, and indeed time stamps doe display in Dolphin as required.

This doesn't work on the other side of the world.

Following solution works here, but it's a little bit strange:

download (currently unofficial) en_SE e.g. from http://www.stacken.kth.se/~auno/en_SE
edit en_SE: replace all entries en_SE:2000 with i18n:2012
become root
copy en_SE to /usr/share/i18n/locales
run: localedef --no-archive -f UTF-8 -i en_SE en_SE.utf8
command above creates /usr/lib64/locale/en_SE.utf-8 with content
edit /etc/profile.d/lang.sh: entry LC_COLLATE=C can be left unchanged, values of all other LC_ entries must be changed to en_SE.utf-8
edit /etc/profile.d/lang.csh: entry LC_COLLATE C can be left unchanged, values of all other LC_ entries must be changed to en_SE.utf-8 *** not tested whether this step is required or only recommended for unification ***
reboot & start KDE 5
go to [KDE] "System Settings" → "Regional Settings" → "Formats"
Activate "Detailed Settings"
Set "Time" to "Sweden - English (en_SE)"
Set all other settings to desired English language based values *** only tested with "Germany - English (en_DE)" ***

This solution looks like that KDE 5 must believe at startup that the computer is located in Sweden and not e.g. in Germany to show date & time format "YYYY-MM-DD HH-MM (24 hrs)" in Dolphin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arnulf (Post 6438899)

This solution looks like that KDE 5 must believe at startup that the computer is located in Sweden and not e.g. in Germany to show date & time format "YYYY-MM-DD HH-MM (24 hrs)" in Dolphin.

As per lvm's comments, that what worked for me. This reads the same.

environmental variables

For me, on Fedora, the above solutions recently stopped working for dolphin.
My current solution is as follows.

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(right click on the kde menu)
> edit applications
> (edit the applications as follows)

environmental variables: LC_TIME=en_SE.UTF-8
program: dolphin

> save
> (drag the icon from the menu to the panel)

> (if the position is wrong, then do as follows)
(right click on it)
enter edit mode
(drag it to the correct position)
<esc>
<esc>

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For the rest of KDE, the old solution to have the time iso format:
yyyy-mm-dd
and the 24-hour clock keeps working, and it is as follows.

(click on the kde menu)
> settings
> system settings
> regional settings
> region & language
> (on the right-most side of the "time" line, click) modify
> (search for sweden)
> (click on) english (sweden)
> (close the system settings application)

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I also added the following lines to the ~/.bashrc file of the user.

### to prevent warnings when using the kde time format "english sweden"
export LC_ALL=C