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Old 12-22-2009, 01:30 AM   #1
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Unhappy Desktop background and all icons/files from it disappeared


Hi there!

I have debian and Xfce installed. All works good but one beautiful morning (it was really just like this ) I didn't find any background picture on desktop, any links or files - there's just grey empty space instead of normal desktop and Xfce-panel at the bootom (it works as usual).

When I open desktop folder in file manager everything is OK there: all files are where they should be - I just can't see them on workspaces...

Any help appreciated
Thanks for attention
 
Old 12-22-2009, 04:51 AM   #2
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Does the desktop menu work? I mean the menu that appears when you click where the wallpaper should be.

What happens if you try to run "xfdesktop" on an xterm window manually?
 
Old 12-22-2009, 07:57 AM   #3
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Silly question but have you checked the settings in Menu->Settings->Desktop?
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:20 AM   #4
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Does the desktop menu work? I mean the menu that appears when you click where the wallpaper should be.

What happens if you try to run "xfdesktop" on an xterm window manually?
The space there wallpaper should be is not responsive.
When some widows are opened all works as usually when I can't see desktops...

xfdesktop warns: "
unable to connect to settings daemon: Did not receive a reply. Possible causes include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired, or the network connection was broken.. Defaults will be used
". And after that go failed's and invald_(NULL)_pointer_instance's...

Does it help somehow?

Last edited by kstera; 12-23-2009 at 03:34 AM.
 
Old 12-23-2009, 03:26 AM   #5
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Silly question but have you checked the settings in Menu->Settings->Desktop?
Yea, that was the first place for me to check...But I didn't find any checkbox about "turn off that stupid desktop" or whatever else like that

To be serious, I checked all settings there - everything seems to be right...

 
Old 12-23-2009, 09:56 AM   #6
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Grasping at straws here but what happens if you run this from a command line as the desktop user while using the desktop
Code:
/usr/bin/xfdesktop -reload
(or is that how you got the error message?)

You could try removing and installing (or otherwise refreshing) parts or all of the xfce package

You could try renaming ~/.config/xfce4 (when not using the desktop), starting the desktop and, if that's OK, quitting the deksktop (there should (TM) be a new ~/.config/xfce4) and then progressively copying subdirectories of the old ~/.config/xfce4 back to the new ~/.config/xfce4 and testing each time by starting the desktop again ...

Last edited by catkin; 12-23-2009 at 09:57 AM. Reason: Added "while using the desktop"
 
Old 12-24-2009, 06:25 AM   #7
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Grasping at straws here but what happens if you run this from a command line as the desktop user while using the desktop
Code:
/usr/bin/xfdesktop -reload
(or is that how you got the error message?)

You could try removing and installing (or otherwise refreshing) parts or all of the xfce package

You could try renaming ~/.config/xfce4 (when not using the desktop), starting the desktop and, if that's OK, quitting the deksktop (there should (TM) be a new ~/.config/xfce4) and then progressively copying subdirectories of the old ~/.config/xfce4 back to the new ~/.config/xfce4 and testing each time by starting the desktop again ...

When I run
Code:
/usr/bin/xfdesktop -reload
it says that I haven't yet run xfdesktop and when I try to do it, there is what I typed in a previous message...
 
Old 12-24-2009, 07:38 AM   #8
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Is xfsettingsd running?
 
Old 12-25-2009, 07:55 AM   #9
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Is xfsettingsd running?
Unfortunately, no. "failed to connect to xfconf daemon: did not receive a reply"
 
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OK, so "unable to connect to settings daemon" probably relates to xfsettingsd not running. It would help if you could copy and paste the commands and resulting output so it was absolutely clear what happened, for example
Code:
c:~$ xfsettingsd --verbose
xfsettingsd 4.6.1
What happens if you run
Code:
xfsettingsd --debug --verbose
Did you try "renaming ~/.config/xfce4 (when not using the desktop), starting the desktop and, if that's OK, quitting the deksktop (there should (TM) be a new ~/.config/xfce4) and then progressively copying subdirectories of the old ~/.config/xfce4 back to the new ~/.config/xfce4 and testing each time by starting the desktop again ..."?
 
Old 12-26-2009, 04:49 AM   #11
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OK, so "unable to connect to settings daemon" probably relates to xfsettingsd not running. It would help if you could copy and paste the commands and resulting output so it was absolutely clear what happened, for example
Code:
c:~$ xfsettingsd --verbose
xfsettingsd 4.6.1
What happens if you run
Code:
xfsettingsd --debug --verbose
Did you try "renaming ~/.config/xfce4 (when not using the desktop), starting the desktop and, if that's OK, quitting the deksktop (there should (TM) be a new ~/.config/xfce4) and then progressively copying subdirectories of the old ~/.config/xfce4 back to the new ~/.config/xfce4 and testing each time by starting the desktop again ..."?
Code:
me# xfsettings --debug --verbose
xfsettingsd 4.6.1
Is that better?

And what do you mean "when not using the desktop"? Don't I understand something?
 
Old 12-26-2009, 06:36 AM   #12
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Code:
me# xfsettings --debug --verbose
xfsettingsd 4.6.1
Is that better?

And what do you mean "when not using the desktop"? Don't I understand something?
That's better but disappointingly terse; were there any clues in the /var/log/* files?

By "when not using the desktop" I mean when not logged in to the graphical desktop; use a virtual terminal accessed by Ctrl+Alt+F1 (or F2 ...). Get back to the graphical logon screen by Ctrl+Alt+F<something>, increasing the <something> until you find it.
 
Old 01-19-2010, 10:55 AM   #13
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Thanks everybody, my friend reinstalled Debian for me with new kernel 2.6.32. Now everythink works correctly =)
 
  


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