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Old 02-16-2008, 12:51 AM   #16
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From what I've been told at the EVGA forums and from my own experience, that PCI slot can't simply be shut off. A possible workaround is assigning a different IRQ number for the device but that may cause more problems than it solves. But thanks for the suggestion.
 
Old 02-18-2008, 08:16 PM   #17
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"The weird thing is if I install a virtual distro using Parallels under XP, everything works fine."

Are you trying to install onto MAC hardware?

If so then you need to tell us because Apple hardware is customized for OS X.

Which would explain your difficulties installing Linux on your hardware.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 02:13 AM   #18
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"The weird thing is if I install a virtual distro using Parallels under XP, everything works fine."

Are you trying to install onto MAC hardware?

If so then you need to tell us because Apple hardware is customized for OS X.

Which would explain your difficulties installing Linux on your hardware.
Nope, everything in the sig is standard PC hardware. My boot drive is dual-booted with XP Pro and Vista 64. Right now I'm running Parallels under XP, with a virtual RHEL 4 distro, and installation ran smooth as silk. However, I can only allocate a max of 1.5 GB memory to the virtual OS, and I really want to use all 4 GB. I know these distros are seeing the SATA disks since that driver is loaded when attempting to install.

The furthest I can get with a "real" Linux installation is the language and keyboard selection. Click next...hangs and never recovers.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 02:26 AM   #19
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Maybe you could try disabling ACPI. I know that helped on one of my rigs. The thing is that every mobo maker does ACPI a little differently. It's no big deal for Windows since it just totally ignores it until you put in the mobo drivers. Linux, on the other hand will try to load mobo drivers at boot and if it's wrong about them you'll get a hang.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 03:16 AM   #20
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From what I've been told at the EVGA forums and from my own experience, that PCI slot can't simply be shut off. A possible workaround is assigning a different IRQ number for the device but that may cause more problems than it solves. But thanks for the suggestion.
Agreed. Actually my motherboard has a option in BIOS to disable add-on cards during boot. If your motherboard has that kind of feature then you should try it.

Another thing you can do, download System Rescue Disk from here and boot with it and see if it can detects your tv tuner card. If it does then check which module it loads for tv tuner card by typing lsmod in terminal and note down the module name. Then run the installer of the distro you want to install and load the module manually. See if it helps.
 
Old 02-19-2008, 01:37 PM   #21
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Is the PCI slot that the TV tuner card in a PCI express slot?

MOBO book should be able to tell you.

Also it maybe that PCI express is not yet standardized in the kernel or the packages.
 
Old 02-20-2008, 12:52 AM   #22
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Is the PCI slot that the TV tuner card in a PCI express slot?

MOBO book should be able to tell you.

Also it maybe that PCI express is not yet standardized in the kernel or the packages.
Yes, it's in a PCI-e x1 slot, forgot to include that info in the sig. In fact that was one of the selling points when I first got it (finally something useful for that slot). I'm hoping it's not a kernel issue, since Linux support for that card appears to be nonexistent. FWIW, I tried to install FC8, which I think includes a 2.6.20+ kernel, same result.
 
Old 02-20-2008, 12:54 AM   #23
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Maybe you could try disabling ACPI. I know that helped on one of my rigs. The thing is that every mobo maker does ACPI a little differently. It's no big deal for Windows since it just totally ignores it until you put in the mobo drivers. Linux, on the other hand will try to load mobo drivers at boot and if it's wrong about them you'll get a hang.
You may be on to something here, as this was something that popped up in a Google search on this issue. I'll definitely try it. Thanks!
 
Old 02-20-2008, 01:26 AM   #24
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Maybe you could try disabling ACPI. I know that helped on one of my rigs. The thing is that every mobo maker does ACPI a little differently. It's no big deal for Windows since it just totally ignores it until you put in the mobo drivers. Linux, on the other hand will try to load mobo drivers at boot and if it's wrong about them you'll get a hang.
OK, disabling ACPI alone didn't solve the problem, but it may be best to leave it disabled to avoid any future complications when trying something else. I will attempt to implement lycan's suggestions tomorrow and report back with the results.
 
Old 02-20-2008, 01:31 PM   #25
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OK, disabling ACPI alone didn't solve the problem, but it may be best to leave it disabled to avoid any future complications when trying something else. I will attempt to implement lycan's suggestions tomorrow and report back with the results.
You have a NF680i chipset, which MCP is that? (MCP55, MCP57 etc...) There are timer issues with them in some cases.

Have you patched your BIOS? I'd start there and post your MCP here if you still have issues. I had very similar issues, but don't want you to waste your time if we don't have the same class of problem. noapic and disabling acpi is a little draconian because there are more recent kernel patches with more elegant (and performance friendly) workarounds than forcing your IRQs through one CPU.

-Viz

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Old 02-20-2008, 06:20 PM   #26
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You have a NF680i chipset, which MCP is that? (MCP55, MCP57 etc...) There are timer issues with them in some cases.

Have you patched your BIOS? I'd start there and post your MCP here if you still have issues. I had very similar issues, but don't want you to waste your time if we don't have the same class of problem. noapic and disabling acpi is a little draconian because there are more recent kernel patches with more elegant (and performance friendly) workarounds than forcing your IRQs through one CPU.

-Viz
The A1 revision of the 680i is MCP55. The latest BIOS revision is P32, and I have P31. The only documented change is improved support for 45nm CPUs, which I don't have. I could try flashing to P32 but it's a really new BIOS and many folks over at the eVGA forums are having some serious problems with it. And when it comes to BIOS updates I usually take the "if it ain't broke don't fix it" approach. But if nothing else works it's worth a shot, thanks.
 
  


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